Official Thread: Sandy Hook Unanswered Questions

[Jim Boonie]

Originally Posted by coexav8r

The only reason I want to keep my guns is to stay safe from you wack jobs on here. I honestly can't believe how screwed up in the head many of you are. Though I won't even bother engaging as 1/2 of the tin foil hat croud resides here and there is no talking sense into anyone.

Good luck you wacko's. I hope the next one isn't someone you love.

lol, you funny little man, you.

...you're on a survivalist forum. You're already considered a wacko by society. So nice job with the whole pot calling kettle black thing. I'll leave you with these lyrics:

"What do you get for pretending the danger's not real
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes
Now things are really what they seem
No, this is no bad dream."

[Survivalguy72]

Originally Posted by agonies creep

I just watched a T.V. show about a week ago (can't remember the name of it) where a group of pshycologists & a hypnosis expert went through a group of 184 volunteers & did increasingly harder tests on them. The goal was to get one of them to assasinate a forigen represenitive (faked of course) without them knowing.

They narrowed it down to the one guy (a corrections officer with no criminal record) who they believed was the most suseptable to hypnosis. The plan worked & they got him to shoot & kill an actor with a fake gun in a realistic simulation that the "hit man" had no idea it wasn't real. They did this without drugs & using nothing more than hypnosis.

It was a tv show.

[Roark]

I'd say PatriotM about nailed it according to this story.

Funny, between all of the teary eyed knee jerk gun control crap, I don't recall hearing mention of this on MSNBC... or CBS... or ABC... or Fox... or....

http://www.examiner.com/article/libo...ere-to-testify


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Not exactly on topic, but it covers so much so well that I just have to share it. Wish I'd written it myself.

http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=28764

It does however describe the other common thread shared by these latest mental patients with guns. Gov't happy pills don't appear to impair eye hand coordination, just the grey matter that connects us with reality. Someone earlier on in this thread (sorry forgot who) mentioned gov't actions to desensitize and program killers, but then backed off a bit. I'm thinkin' he may have been a little closer to a real possibility than he may have realized.

Remember, this is a gov't that willfully acknowledges the killing of nearly a half million Iraqi non-combatants as acceptable and necessary collateral damage.
I forget... for what???

Is it really that hard to imagine that something this small by comparison would be beyond their capabilities, even if it was just for an opportunity for Yobo to shed a tear on TV? Again... same gov't that cooked up Operation Northwoods.



September 11th.
Gulf of Tonkin.
Kennedy's assasination.
Remember the Maine.

All great examples of our rulers making full disclosure, answering all of the questions, and telling us the whole truth about what's going on.

Like Bill Cosby's Noah said to God... R I G H T !

Don't ya find it a bit ironic that they swear us in any time we testify in court, and can imprison us if they think that we lied? They do it all day every day, and then we pay them a ridiculous pension.

[Herd Sniper]

In a recent and sudden news report, Obama now admits that there are "obstacles" to legislating any new anti-gun laws. It would appear that Pelosi, who got burned real bad the last time that the Democrats passed anti-gun laws, got to Obama and told him to knock off his crap. Pelosi has been instrumental in keeping a number of Democrat sponsored anti-gun laws locked up "in committee" for a number of years. So we now wait to see if this Democrat anti-gun furor gradually fades away and dies a quiet death or not...

[horseradish]

I'll admit that the thought that this might be a false flag op entered my mind Friday, I'm not ready to yell it from the rooftops yet but the whole scenario sure seems custom made to suit their agenda. Regardless I have no doubt they will exploit it to the hilt. The calls for gun-controls started before the bodies were even cold and have been going strong ever since from politicians and the media alike.

I heard on the radio today that the mother was a "survivalist" so I suppose it is possible that both she and the shooter may have been on this very board.

[TheFittest]

Originally Posted by jetgraphics

My greatest fear - is that the inevitable uprising will be by people who have no clue, and will be defeated by other people who have no clue, and the net result will be the eradication of the republican form of government - about which 99% of Americans have no clue.

Most Americans have been carefully groomed to be ignorant and apathetic about the republican form of government. It was no accident. Everyone thinks they know what a "republic" is - without ever finding out.

I know I was misled to presume it was a constitutionally limited indirect democracy. But that is NOT what a republican form is. The servant government IS a constitutionally limited indirect democracy. But that is not what was promised to the PEOPLE who did not "join up" for the duration. The non-citizen free inhabitants were promised by the servants in government that their rights would be secured - and nothing more... unless they consented (and became subject to more rules, regs, etc).

In the 1820s, the restrictions on voting were eased, and the masses were urged to "join up", and America transitioned to the democratic form with all its partisan politics and corruption. In three generations, it fell prey to the socialists and "progressives" who sought to gain control over the infrastructure and industry of the nation. By the 1930s, it was accomplished, and government became the master, bestowing grants, exemptions, bribes and favors to those who served it best.

What should we know?

Art. 4, Sec. 4, USCON promises a "republican form." But that is not synonymous with a "republic."

Here's the definition:

GOVERNMENT (Republican Form of Government)- One in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people ... directly ...
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 695

People (not citizens) directly exercise sovereign powers (absolute power).

Were you led to believe that the government was the sovereign? Didn't you learn of their "Sovereign immunity?"

But government is the servant of the sovereign people! Over which people is the government a sovereign?

The subject citizenry.

That's what has been omitted from the curriculum of "Government approved" schooling.

Under the republican form of government, where the people directly exercise sovereignty
- - -

• People (sovereigns) have rights and powers, endowed by their Creator.
• Citizens (subjects) have privileges and immunities, granted by government.
• Government serves the people, but rules its citizens.

- - -
Under the (socialist and) democratic form of government - - -

• There are no sovereign people - only subject citizens.

Some day, our children will awaken in a land that is no longer theirs to bestow to their children's children.

And that's what I fear will happen.

Offering a second thanks for the post, and a second chance for people to read it in case they missed it.

[TheFittest]

Originally Posted by PatriotM

Apparently, the few of us on here that are predicting gun bans/confiscation and a civil war are not alone - at least judging by the record long lines at this gun show!

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...gomery-county/

I was at a large chain sportsman store yesterday (you know, the kind where they have 8 .22 versions of the AR15, and only 2 choices of an actual AR15) I was there because my wife had to go to the mall and it was the only place I was semi interested in...

Anyway, while I was there, I was shocked how busy it was. The counter was literally packed! And 2 fathers were filling out the papers and picking out their semi-automatic rifles with the kids under foot. Apparently, this horrible event has scared the crap out of lots of people, and their doing something about it. I just hope the stores are handing out pamphlets for local gun ranges, and training classes.

[aramchek]

The globalists may have killed, tortured and detained soldiers and civilians abroad for their agendas, oil wars, banana republic revolutions over the decades, etc. But they'd never do that to Americans, or so we hope. They're more concerned about America's interests, economy, jobs, liberties, than their own global ambitions and dynasties.... Or so we hope.

But does anyone know whether the mother's guns were locked (for example, with a combination that only she knew) or whether they were always broadly accessible? If she knew that her son was nuts, but had guns lying around the home -- does that make any sense? He could have gone on his spree without killing her, or he could have killed her without killing the kids, or he could have simply killed himself. It could have panned out in other ways, depending on whether the guns were always accessible to him. Evidently, at least one was?

[Herd Sniper]

Everybody here, along with the liberal media, keeps forgetting that Tim McVeigh killed MORE children in his attack than did the Connecticut School Shooter. McVeigh also killed more adults and destroyed a federal building without firing a single shot. McVeigh used fertilizer, racing fuel and a rented truck to do his attack. Guess what? You can still by all those elements without any restrictions at all.

"If our society had no BAD guys at all, firearms would ONLY be used for sporting purposes." Peoria County Range Officer Carl C. Dodd

[Roark]

Originally Posted by aramchek

The globalists may have killed, tortured and detained soldiers and civilians abroad for their agendas, oil wars, banana republic revolutions over the decades, etc. But they'd never do that to Americans, or so we hope. They're more concerned about America's interests, economy, jobs, liberties, than their own global ambitions and dynasties.... Or so we hope.

But does anyone know whether the mother's guns were locked (for example, with a combination that only she knew) or whether they were always broadly accessible? If she knew that her son was nuts, but had guns lying around the home -- does that make any sense? He could have gone on his spree without killing her, or he could have killed her without killing the kids, or he could have simply killed himself. It could have panned out in other ways, depending on whether the guns were always accessible to him. Evidently, at least one was?

Read the story.

http://www.examiner.com/article/libo...ere-to-testify

And this I think delves into his autism and medications, similar to the last handful of crazies that killed a bunch of people with a gun.

http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=28764

Just keep telling yourself... "It's all a coincidence".

[JM753]

Originally Posted by LordOpie

what will state govts do if the fed tried to over-rule their authority? take the most publicly hardcore stereotype of Texas. I know seccession is a silly topic to most (and me) but would Texas just tell the fed to f*** off?

Yep. We sure would.

[BHump]

Can someone point me to more information about the guy they apprehended in the woods? There were supposedly two witnesses that saw them handcuff someone else but that is pretty much the end of it. Why no mention of the 2nd person?

[CrypticCRICKET]

Originally Posted by BHump

Can someone point me to more information about the guy they apprehended in the woods? There were supposedly two witnesses that saw them handcuff someone else but that is pretty much the end of it. Why no mention of the 2nd person?

Two videos that I know of.

Helicopter Footage - Possible Second Shooter...

Police Walked A Man In Camo Pants And Dark Jacket...

[CrypticCRICKET]

And there seems to be some more controversy about the Aurora theater shooting.

This video.

Aurora theater shooting court documents blows...

[BHump]

WOW

Ok, I am not usually one to wear the tinfoil hat but I got to be honest, I just might join in on this one.

[BJJ_Grappler]

Originally Posted by Fight4Freedom

And your "Proof" this did NOT take place is ???????
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Not leaning either way personally......Just sayin.

The burden of proof always falls on the accuser.

[BJJ_Grappler]

Originally Posted by Herd Sniper

Prove to me where I am wrong. You can't do it. You won't accept the idea that people in this forum predicted what was going to happen and it did. You don't like the idea that Obama/Democrats could be linked to the mass shootings across the U.S. Okay, so don't accept the idea. Just be aware of it because this anti-gun effort is not dead yet. If Obama's anti-gun effort gets blocked or denied, look for another shooting like this one to happen again. Ooops. Another prediction...

Again, the burden of proof falls upon the accuser. You are the accuser, you prove it.

[BJJ_Grappler]

Originally Posted by talon115

I will respectfully disagree. You must admit that since these incidents, our state and local police have been militarized to the hilt.

What incidents, oh you mean bad guys with guns shooting a police and other innocents?

Yeah we have rifles and armored vehicles. It's called protecting life.

The rifles started after the Hollywood Bank shoot out.

[MinnpatRIOT]

sandy hook hinted at in dark knight rises movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB-Lt...layer_embedded

[Karnus]

I don't indulge in the tin foil very much. However I just have to wonder if this isn't connected. Too many coincidences between these two issues. Could these guys have been programmed? Could the Holmes event have been the trigger to activate the Sandy Hook shooter? And even worse... Could the Sandy Hook event be the trigger for yet another, even worse incident?