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Old 11-17-2012, 08:28 PM
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Alright, this may sound a bit strange. I and my other female friends like to joke about the 'Zombocalypse' (Zombie apocalypse). It is a light hearted way for us all to chat about preparedness, plans, ect. Well, one friend's plan is to Shaun of the Dead things and take over a pub.
Said pub used to be a bank, and it kept the original vault complete with doors. Her plan is to run there and she (along with whoever else is there) will have plenty of food and protection.
I laughed... right up to the point I understood she was serious.
I have already pointed out she couldn't lock herself in, if there was no electricity they food would go bad (if it wasn't looted already, ect), and she would be surrounded (potentially) by people she didn't know without weapons to defend herself.
Her newest plan in light of this, is to try and seduce a male to take care of her...
The silliness of that idea was so absurd it made my brain hurt.
Does anyone else know a rational way to explain why that would be a horrible idea without being overly rude? I know it sounds like a useless cause, but I am hoping to prompt her into have a better plan B.
Yes, she was serious about the seduction plan.
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Maybe you should tell her what your plan is and your reasons behind every part of it. If you can show her how well thought-out yours is, maybe she will see how ridiculously flawed hers is.

You're a lot nicer than I am. When one of my friends says something really stupid (like your friend has) I tell them they're being stupid. But that's the way my friends and I are - they tell me when I'm being stupid, too. Just try to explain to her how flawed her plan is. Hopefully she'll take some direction from you and get herself straightened out a little.
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You cannot fix stupid. However, can you point out current events like Sandy. What type of weather issues do you have in your area that could be potentially devastating? If none, how about a fire that burns her house to the ground?
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Well, I haven't told her specifics of my Bug-out plan, or all I have in case SHTF.
She's very pretty, but is the type that wouldn't be able to 'slaughter' any animals because she loves them. She also has to keep a ton of pets and won't leave them behind. And I gave her a tomato plant last year that died because of a lack of water/cat ate part of it.
We live near the mountains, so winters are bitterly cold. She lives in an apartment that is extremley old. It also used to be a hotel.
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I'm not sure you can make her understand as she sounds like a friend of mine. She too would starve to death before slaughtering any animals for food.

If your winters are harsh, does she have enough food in case she cannot get to a grocery store? What would she do in a power outage from an ice storm? Maybe that's the way to talk to her.
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I am known for being quite forward. This is intentional and prevents being misinterpreted or having my message taken in the wrong concept. As adults aren't we beyond the kind of games she is playing. And in addition many are going to her rescue or telling you how to rescue her. I say let her live out her fairy tale.
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Alright, this may sound a bit strange. I and my other female friends like to joke about the 'Zombocalypse' (Zombie apocalypse). It is a light hearted way for us all to chat about preparedness, plans, ect. Well, one friend's plan is to Shaun of the Dead things and take over a pub.
Said pub used to be a bank, and it kept the original vault complete with doors. Her plan is to run there and she (along with whoever else is there) will have plenty of food and protection.
I laughed... right up to the point I understood she was serious.
I have already pointed out she couldn't lock herself in, if there was no electricity they food would go bad (if it wasn't looted already, ect), and she would be surrounded (potentially) by people she didn't know without weapons to defend herself.
Her newest plan in light of this, is to try and seduce a male to take care of her...
The silliness of that idea was so absurd it made my brain hurt.
Does anyone else know a rational way to explain why that would be a horrible idea without being overly rude? I know it sounds like a useless cause, but I am hoping to prompt her into have a better plan B.
Yes, she was serious about the seduction plan.
You can say most things with a joke and a laugh.

Just say what bothers you. "you'll suffocate" is my first reaction. But don't get all serious and sincere and caring on her. Just treat her like she's normal. What would you do if you disagreed with anyone else on any topic? wouldn't you just state your objection? Just treat her like you'd want to be treated yourself.

As to male seduction, good luck to her. I take it she's very attractive? I don't think you have to take this too seriously tbh - just ask her who she has in mind. Turn it into a joke, have a good lol.

Her thinking over a period of time will cause her ideas to evolve. Her saying her ideas and realising after they're said that they're not fantastic will change her way of thinking. You don't have to take responsibility for getting her to where you are at. You can just enjoy talking about it with her, having a good time, having a laff.
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+1 to what Absolutely! said, plus:

To turn a famous quote on its head and give it a prepper/survivalist spin: At 20, a woman needs good looks. At 30, a woman needs a good education and career. After 40, a woman needs a basement full of food and several closets full of guns and ammo. Frankly, I think your friend is a lost cause. If you want to continue to yuk it up with her, fine and dandy. But don't waste your energy trying to "convert" her to the prepper lifestyle.

Just my .02.
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I don't think I could possibly be polite about it! She needs a reality check.
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Honey, she sounds like perfect zombie bait to me!

And she's scared to death, to boot. Are you sure you want someone like that for a friend?
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I would point out some of the obvious points that she seems to be missing or overlooked, maybe she will think about it and come to understand that your serious. The way things are going people are waking up about prepping hopefuly! I want to be able to be ready for myself, my family and anyone that wants help as well. I'm new to this but am open minded and want to learn as much as I can.
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It sounds like your friend doesn't have a survivalist bone in her body. Other than holding her hand through it all, she won't survive. Don't get too attached!!
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Holy callousness, Batman!

What's all this about people not being able to learn?

Get real, ladies. Not everyone is a born prepper. About ten years ago I couldn't even touch raw chicken to cook it because the texture made me gag. I hadn't grown ANYTHING in a garden or pot. I didn't know how to sew or use a chainsaw. I had never shot a gun bigger than a BB gun.

Then life happened. My awakening was a very slow process. I'm fairly sure it would have gone faster if I had a nice prepper friend who could have held my hand through some of it.

People can change. Don't lose hope, OP. I did it. She can, too.
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Holy callousness, Batman!

What's all this about people not being able to learn?

Get real, ladies. Not everyone is a born prepper. About ten years ago I couldn't even touch raw chicken to cook it because the texture made me gag. I hadn't grown ANYTHING in a garden or pot. I didn't know how to sew or use a chainsaw. I had never shot a gun bigger than a BB gun.

Then life happened. My awakening was a very slow process. I'm fairly sure it would have gone faster if I had a nice prepper friend who could have held my hand through some of it.

People can change. Don't lose hope, OP. I did it. She can, too.
I think you are probably an exception. For most others the S will hit they fan before they decide to do something.

An example is the friend I mentioned earlier. I had the ladies over for cards and dinner. The lasagna was outstanding and "Cindy" asked what was in it. I listed the ingredients and ended with 'and venison'. She literally dropped her fork and said "we're eating Bambi?" She refused to eat any more. She is the type that would starve to death.
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Just because a dude likes your boobs doesn't mean he's got any food, either.
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Just because a dude likes your boobs doesn't mean he's got any food, either.
Oh. This is so difficult. How do I keep from saying something totally inappropriate about shakes here?

Ah, forget it.

Cute guys in the end of the world have no wienerschnitzel for hungry women! So don't carry a knife. And never, ever sharpen it. You know... just leave the whole BOBbit bag at home. Stop daydreaming of kielbasa, because all the delis close up shop when the end times come!

Holy crow, I need to stop before I get banned. :D

Thanks for the giggles, gals.
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Oh. This is so difficult. How do I keep from saying something totally inappropriate about shakes here?

Ah, forget it.

Cute guys in the end of the world have no wienerschnitzel for hungry women! So don't carry a knife. And never, ever sharpen it. You know... just leave the whole BOBbit bag at home. Stop daydreaming of kielbasa, because all the delis close up shop when the end times come!

Holy crow, I need to stop before I get banned. :D

Thanks for the giggles, gals.
In the book "The Good Earth" I remember it mentioned that the girls in brothels looked plumper during the famine than the other girls...

There. i think I stayed safely on the right side of the line as well.
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In the book "The Good Earth" I remember it mentioned that the girls in brothels looked plumper during the famine than the other girls...

There. i think I stayed safely on the right side of the line as well.
I would rather not have to resort to such things that should be recreational as a way of getting my protein. Besides, it always gives me heartburn...

There's a reason they always had chickens at the Chicken Ranch...no matter how bad and desperate the economy got in the great depression, there were always men willing to trade a chicken for a lil somethin-somethin.
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Ha! You girls make me smile.

Not sure my husband would agree with that method of raking in new chooks, but I'll sock the idea away for my relatives. That's funny stuff.
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I am new here. Mostly because a friend of mines sister has been sending out emails on disaster prep... along with news stories of all sorts (bad economy news, natural disasters, Greece ect)

I finally wised up and quit treating it like a joke.

I have food stores and have my need lists going.

I think being a good example works wonders. I am thankful for her gentle pushing... I may owe her my families life one day.
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