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Old 08-05-2012, 09:10 AM
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By using genocide?

So you are saying is, if we protect ourselves or the state of Israel, then we are committing genocide? That is pretty far fetched, even for you!

You don't think people do not have a right to protect themselves?
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So you are saying is, if we protect ourselves or the state of Israel, then we are committing genocide? That is pretty far fetched, even for you!

You don't think people do not have a right to protect themselves?
I think the origional premis was we kill every male over the age of 12.

Protecting Israel is of course being a LIBERAL. If they are too lazy to protect themselves.
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I think the origional premis was we kill every male over the age of 12.

Protecting Israel is of course being a LIBERAL. If they are too lazy to protect themselves.
I guess I missed the 12 year old thing!....Too young IMO, 18 more like it! Killing 12 year old boys is like them destructing their women. Its BS.

After you and I are dead, they will still be fighting. Lets go drink a beer.

I am realizing I cant change crap!
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I guess I missed the 12 year old thing!....Too young IMO, 18 more like it! Killing 12 year old boys is like them destructing their women. Its BS.

After you and I are dead, they will still be fighting. Lets go drink a beer.

I am realizing I cant change crap!
I think for the most part the people fighting the wars are not the people we should be killing. There are generally just the poor slobs doing somone elses dirty work.
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I think for the most part the people fighting the wars are not the people we should be killing. There are generally just the poor slobs doing somone elses dirty work.
I have to disagree. Especially when it comes down to the suicide bomber. While they are doing "someone elses" dirty work, they are "TRUE BELIEVERS" in the cause.
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I have to disagree. Especially when it comes down to the suicide bomber. While they are doing "someone elses" dirty work, they are "TRUE BELIEVERS" in the cause.
But where do they get them from?

Generally cultures to ignorant and poor to know any better.

The problem is that we could kill all the sucicide bombers but they don't matter in the sceme of things
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But where do they get them from?

Generally cultures to ignorant and poor to know any better.
I had to go through CIED class last week.(Im still at SLC). Most of the time the young are recruited. And the Recruiter is usually a family or tribes member.
Their motivation is not money!
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I had to go through CIED class last week.(Im still at SLC). Most of the time the young are recruited. And the Recruiter is usually a family or tribes member.
Their motivation is not money!
Arabic motivation usually isn't money. I dont think they have enough stuff to make it important.

Respect is their currency

The marketing for soldiers and recruitment does not change from side to side. Why do you think that is?
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I didn't know you were Catholic, Savinkov. Quote comes from papal legate Amal Ulric at the sack of Beziers, the Albigensian Crusade, 1290s. "Kill them all. God will certainly know his own...."
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I didn't know you were Catholic, Savinkov. Quote comes from papal legate Amal Ulric at the sack of Beziers, the Albigensian Crusade, 1290s. "Kill them all. God will certainly know his own...."
Yeah, I've heard about that. But hey, desperation knows no religious bounds.
(Maybe he too was fed up with getting groped and X-rayed by the TSA?)

I don't see any Cathars around any more, though... It's just as though
somebody waved a magic wand. Sounds like he was a success?

(I don't think you have to be Catholic to join the Airborne, either...)

Actually... I should mention... I actually *have* one of those flags, and I fly it one day out of
the year. (Guess what day...)
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But where do they get them from?

Generally cultures to ignorant and poor to know any better.
Not so much.

There's a good amount of them that were university educated. They are TRUE BELIEVERS! In the Cult of Personality that leads them.
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The Wisconsin shooter, the Colorado shooter...

These religious right wing Christian fanatics.. of course they don't represent the entire baseball, hotdogs and apple pie crowd, although they will be the first to quip that a faction of radical Muslims represents Muslims as a whole.
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I have to disagree. Especially when it comes down to the suicide bomber. While they are doing "someone elses" dirty work, they are "TRUE BELIEVERS" in the cause.
I dont know, takes some kind of balls for a suicide bomber to do what they do. Not like the fat pieces of **** who sit at home and ask the government to send someone elses children to kill and die for their causes. Bombing the **** out of Iraq did nothing to protect America... all it did was bankrupt us and kill our children. We are weaker and less safe now than prior to going to war in Iraq.

The Iraqies on the other hand have nothing....and they were going up against the greatest military this world has ever seen. And people wonder why they resort to suicide bombing...what a bunch of ignorant people our nation has.
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I read a follow-up on this story in Time. She is psychologically a very distressed young woman. I expect the transition from an Afghan village girl to being here in the chaotic US, where she is a media figure, must be terrifying. May the Lord protect her since her family could not see fit to.

Very special place in Hell for the rabid dog that did this.
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One thing is for sure : Religious or not a hungry man without hope is the most dangerous man of them all
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Wouldn't he at least have to have some hope of getting some food somewhere,
in order to be dangerous?

Otherwise, he'd just sit there and wait for a Government handout, or for the
end, whatever came first, wouldn't he - ?
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Wouldn't he at least have to have some hope of getting some food somewhere,
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Otherwise, he'd just sit there and wait for a Government handout, or for the
end, whatever came first, wouldn't he - ?
No he could weigh the risk of certain death with the risk of taking the food from somone else.
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I had to go through CIED class last week.(Im still at SLC). Most of the time the young are recruited. And the Recruiter is usually a family or tribes member.
Their motivation is not money!
There's a pretty good movie called Syriana that touches on recruitment and motivation of bombers. it portrays recruiters as upscale educated Moslems sponsoring poor street Arab young people in indoctrination schools (hadrassahs?). The kids who have never been valued or well treated are introduced to the concept of a martyr's paradise, 72 virgins, lots of lamb to eat, etc. Seemed like a reasonable explanation. Poor kids must be awfully naieve.
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Wouldn't he at least have to have some hope of getting some food somewhere,
in order to be dangerous?

Otherwise, he'd just sit there and wait for a Government handout, or for the
end, whatever came first, wouldn't he - ?
A man with something to lose are less willing to risk what he have

A man without something to lose have always something he can win even in a bad situation ( Think we could call it calculated risk )
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