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Old 05-05-2012, 03:30 AM
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Sorry if this has already been done, but I couldnt find a specific thread on them.

INCH = I'm Never Coming Home

I've been thinking about my current BOB kit and that it really needs to be more and thus an INCH bag. I am bugging in at present, so I think if I was forced out by war, flood, fire my bag really needs to be an INCH bag.


I would love to know how the INCH differences in to a BOB in equipment/supplies etc.

Thanks for your continued assistance
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id say more personal effects (ie pics, memorabilia) would be inclueded there for the inch would be bigger than a bob
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I can think of one difference: a BOB wouldn't emphasize procuring food the way an INCH would. My BOB has enough calories in it for 72 hours, but an INCH bag should probably focus on finding more food.
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Copies of all important documents, either in paper form or digital.
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My BOB is the bag that travels with me. It has the supplies I would need to sustain me for 3-7 days... for example, with my GHB gear, to help me reach my home if the SHTF while I am away... in case of evacuation, due to chemical spills... if our home is flooded...etc.

My INCH is a seperate bag. It is to be grabbed in case of a scenario in which we are pretty sure we will never be returning... fire...tornadoes (yes, we have a shelter, but the INCH goes in, too)... Zombie Alien Invasions... stuff like that.

The differences?
FOOD:
My BOB has actual food items... Power bars and coffee, for instance... and some complete multivitamins. I have a mini fishing kit, but that's as much for entertainment as for food. I love to fish.
My INCH has no actual food. If I am leaving permanently, I will also have my BOB and I will be grabbing as many tubs out of my food storage as I can haul, in our van. Therefore, my INCH includes snare wire, my travel rod, more fishing gear,my sling and repair kit (and some ammo), archery repair kit, a rat trap or two, a supply of seeds for gardening or sprouting, a nutcracker and pick, and a field guide on wild edibles.

WATER:
My BOB has a small vial of water purification tablets, a filter straw, a few bottles of water, and a canteen.
My INCH has a plastic tarp for rain collection, a piece of cheesecloth for crude bulk filtering, and a bottle of Iodine tablets.

CLOTHING:
My BOB has a full change of clothing, a rain poncho, sunglasses, an extra pair each of socks and underwear, and weather-appropriate gear (gloves and a wool hat in cold weather, a brimmed hat and Aqua Socks in the summer).
My INCH has another full change of clothing, 3 more extra pairs of socks and underwear, the off-season "weather-appropriate gear" (ie: wool hat and gloves in the summer, brimmed hat in the winter),and a spare pair of sunglasses. I recently added a pair of "ice grips," as well.

TOOLS:
My BOB has no knife-sharpening kit. I would hope my gear can hold an edge for a week. It does have the usual...folding shovel, knives, multitool, cordage, etc.
My INCH has a hatchet, my whetstone, a knapping kit, a tent repair kit, crochet hooks, and such...things I wouldn't normally need during one week, but WOULD need if I were out a month or more.

SHELTER/BEDDING:
My BOB has a groundcloth, I can use to make a temporary tent. I also have a space blanket.
My INCH doesn't need any extras, We have two tents we would grab, besides the gear in the BOB. Packed with each tent is a wool blanket and a pillowcase.

FIRE/LIGHTING:
Not much difference... my INCH has duplicates of what my BOB contains. Maybe more batteries, and the charger, but that's it.

PERSONAL CARE:
My BOB has the kind of stuff you'd grab for a weeklong camping trip. I also include a lice comb (great for tick checks), Vaseline, and a bar of Ivory soap (works as laundry soap and dishsoap, too). Oh, and (of course) the roll of TP and the travel pack of Wet Wipes.
My INCH has no toiletries except several bars of Ivory, a couple more washclothes, more TP and Wet Wipes, another toothbrush, and another roll of floss.

FIRST AID:
My BOB has a moderate first aid kit... bandages, gauze, Advil, Benadryl, a small tin of Vick's, a small jar of clove oil, meat tenderizer, hydrocortizone, Neosporin, tweezers, grapefruit seed extract, a CPR barrier, a small square of chicken wire mesh, stuff like that.
My INCH has a larger supply of first aid gear...all of the stuff in the BOB's, plus a suture kit, QuikClot, garlic, thermometer, and a tea ball.

PERSONAL EFFECTS/ENTERTAINMENT:
My BOB has my binder, of course, with my most important papers (birth certificates, CPOs, custody papers, shot records, etc.). The binder also has current pics of each family member (with medical and identifying info on the backs of them), and notes/pdfs I've printed out. I have a Kindle, with lots of good reading. I have a deck of cards, some dice, and my rocks and minerals field guide.
My INCH has a couple of my favorite homesteading books, the previously mentioned wild edibles guide, flashdrives and disks of family photos, music, survival and homesteading pdfs, favorite books, an inventory of belongings (for insurance), favorite movies, etc. I also have some of my most sentimental items in a waterproof bag, inside.
In a separate (insulated) pouch, I have our two laptops and all their gear. This goes with us, too.
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Sorry if this has already been done, but I couldnt find a specific thread on them.

INCH = I'm Never Coming Home

I've been thinking about my current BOB kit and that it really needs to be more and thus an INCH bag. I am bugging in at present, so I think if I was forced out by war, flood, fire my bag really needs to be an INCH bag.


I would love to know how the INCH differences in to a BOB in equipment/supplies etc.

Thanks for your continued assistance
Purdy
This is actually the way I think of a BOB. Maybe it's just me, but I don't want to count on the ability to go back to the place I felt I had to leave.
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My BOB (our BOB's) I guess have been INCH bags all along. If we have to leave we don't expect to come back or have much to come back to.
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I already live in a remote area and im planning on moving to an even more isolated ranch. This means I not leaving at the first sign of trouble. What ever is big enough to force me out is likely to cause permanent damage to the local environment.

The difference between INCH and BOB to me would be year round sustainment. If I am leaving and not planning on returning, I want a real four season tent, winter wt sleeping bag, water filter and water storage bags, garden seeds, tillage tools, a real hunting rifle, spare clothes and boots, steel traps, fishing gear, 90 days worth of food, even a grain mill.

My idea of an INCH bag is the gear I use for a three week hunting trip when I'm spike camping at high elevation.
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Wow, learn something every day. Never heard of INCH before this post.
Yeah Hick, I'm stalking you, I find your posts informative & well thought out.
I'd add a quality solar still to the set, but off the top of my head thats the only addition.
In my locale if I have to "INCH" it, I'd either have to head up to the tree line, or become truly nomadic. There simply isn't enough combustible material locally to survive the winter, once all the elk fence & vacant houses are consumed. So my INCH kit would definitely include my 'hawks.
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I'm working on an INCH cart, I want way more stuff than I'm willing to pack on my back.
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I'm working on an INCH cart, I want way more stuff than I'm willing to pack on my back.
We are too, this most likely of possibilities has caught my roaming eye:

http://www.burley.com/home/bur/page_...gsup_2013.html

and to pull it maybe this will tickle your fancy

http://www.icetrikes.co/explore-our-trikes/adventure

I started looking at both of these to get a base camp higher up and deeper into the wilderness for hunting etc. The also have possibilities as post TEOTWAWKI vehicles, and suit as INCH vehicles.
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My BOB is the bag that travels with me. It has the supplies I would need to sustain me for 3-7 days... for example, with my GHB gear, to help me reach my home if the SHTF while I am away... in case of evacuation, due to chemical spills... if our home is flooded...etc.

My INCH is a seperate bag. It is to be grabbed in case of a scenario in which we are pretty sure we will never be returning... fire...tornadoes (yes, we have a shelter, but the INCH goes in, too)... Zombie Alien Invasions... stuff like that.

The differences?
FOOD:
My BOB has actual food items... Power bars and coffee, for instance... and some complete multivitamins. I have a mini fishing kit, but that's as much for entertainment as for food. I love to fish.
My INCH has no actual food. If I am leaving permanently, I will also have my BOB and I will be grabbing as many tubs out of my food storage as I can haul, in our van. Therefore, my INCH includes snare wire, my travel rod, more fishing gear,my sling and repair kit (and some ammo), archery repair kit, a rat trap or two, a supply of seeds for gardening or sprouting, a nutcracker and pick, and a field guide on wild edibles.

WATER:
My BOB has a small vial of water purification tablets, a filter straw, a few bottles of water, and a canteen.
My INCH has a plastic tarp for rain collection, a piece of cheesecloth for crude bulk filtering, and a bottle of Iodine tablets.

CLOTHING:
My BOB has a full change of clothing, a rain poncho, sunglasses, an extra pair each of socks and underwear, and weather-appropriate gear (gloves and a wool hat in cold weather, a brimmed hat and Aqua Socks in the summer).
My INCH has another full change of clothing, 3 more extra pairs of socks and underwear, the off-season "weather-appropriate gear" (ie: wool hat and gloves in the summer, brimmed hat in the winter),and a spare pair of sunglasses. I recently added a pair of "ice grips," as well.

TOOLS:
My BOB has no knife-sharpening kit. I would hope my gear can hold an edge for a week. It does have the usual...folding shovel, knives, multitool, cordage, etc.
My INCH has a hatchet, my whetstone, a knapping kit, a tent repair kit, crochet hooks, and such...things I wouldn't normally need during one week, but WOULD need if I were out a month or more.

SHELTER/BEDDING:
My BOB has a groundcloth, I can use to make a temporary tent. I also have a space blanket.
My INCH doesn't need any extras, We have two tents we would grab, besides the gear in the BOB. Packed with each tent is a wool blanket and a pillowcase.

FIRE/LIGHTING:
Not much difference... my INCH has duplicates of what my BOB contains. Maybe more batteries, and the charger, but that's it.

PERSONAL CARE:
My BOB has the kind of stuff you'd grab for a weeklong camping trip. I also include a lice comb (great for tick checks), Vaseline, and a bar of Ivory soap (works as laundry soap and dishsoap, too). Oh, and (of course) the roll of TP and the travel pack of Wet Wipes.
My INCH has no toiletries except several bars of Ivory, a couple more washclothes, more TP and Wet Wipes, another toothbrush, and another roll of floss.

FIRST AID:
My BOB has a moderate first aid kit... bandages, gauze, Advil, Benadryl, a small tin of Vick's, a small jar of clove oil, meat tenderizer, hydrocortizone, Neosporin, tweezers, grapefruit seed extract, a CPR barrier, a small square of chicken wire mesh, stuff like that.
My INCH has a larger supply of first aid gear...all of the stuff in the BOB's, plus a suture kit, QuikClot, garlic, thermometer, and a tea ball.

PERSONAL EFFECTS/ENTERTAINMENT:
My BOB has my binder, of course, with my most important papers (birth certificates, CPOs, custody papers, shot records, etc.). The binder also has current pics of each family member (with medical and identifying info on the backs of them), and notes/pdfs I've printed out. I have a Kindle, with lots of good reading. I have a deck of cards, some dice, and my rocks and minerals field guide.
My INCH has a couple of my favorite homesteading books, the previously mentioned wild edibles guide, flashdrives and disks of family photos, music, survival and homesteading pdfs, favorite books, an inventory of belongings (for insurance), favorite movies, etc. I also have some of my most sentimental items in a waterproof bag, inside.
In a separate (insulated) pouch, I have our two laptops and all their gear. This goes with us, too.
...woah. Suddenly i think my BOB might be more of an INCH.
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My BOB has food for 3 days, water for 2, no extra clothing except for two pairs of socks, light sleeping system, tarp, paracord, water purification tablets, 2 bic lighters, small FIK, 1 small commercial survival kit (matches, cotton ball, space blanket, small multitool, fishing line and hook, etc) 50 rds of pistol ammo and 50 rds of 7.62x39 for the ak I keep in the trunk of the car. It is designed to get me home in 3-5 days tops. The INCH has the same stuff as the GHB but with more clothing ( 1 set of thermal underwear, 1 Hooded Sweatshirt,) Hatchet, prybar, larger FAK, 100 rds of pistol ammo, 250 rds of rifle ammo, hygiene items,etc. It is designed to help me last longer in the wild or hiding in the city
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In my opinion, and INCH bag differs from a BOB in that it:

-contains more food. I have 7-10 days worth, BOBs are usually 3 day packs.
-contains items you couldn't replace, i.e. all important documents and a few hundred family/life photos for me.
-contains more ammo or other supplies you likely could not restock, all in place of less luxuries. People might use a BOB just to take 3 days of essentials to a hotel if they leave during a hurricane in a hurry etc. If you are leaving for good, than you'd care less about unnecessary luxuries and more about stuff you might not be able to find on the road.

I only have an INCH bag set up. If I wanted it to just last 72 hr, it would be half the size and a third the weight.
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My bob is more of a INCH. But it really depends as far as loadout for your evacuation, can you drive out? or Are you hiking it?

I recommend this, data on a chip (of course everyone has heard of this)
however....Also on your computer, cut and paste a bunch of different pictures and print it off on a normal sized sheet of picture paper, do both sides, and then laminate it. Now you got something to always look at, pictures to remind you of loved ones or to maybe find them by showing and asking strangers. Something to keep your spirits up. Besides packing spirits.

If I can drive, my INCH bag becomes a INCH Ford Truck! Load it up with all my weapons and ammo, all my alcohol and food buckets/cans, water cans, fuel cans, pets, spare clothes and hit the road!

BOB/Inch bag, 7 days worth of food, water filters/purifiers, the usual **** we all pack in there to sustain yourself in vacant homes or in the woods.
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Purdy Bear, you might as well ignore the Field Equipment list. I forgot you were in London. I'm leaving it in so anyone else that wants the reference can have it. The first part of the post, before the list might be of interest.



Being the simple minded person I am, it seems that in the possibility of coming back is high situations, or you have what you need to start over elsewhere situations, you have a BOB built and ready to go.

And for if you aren't coming back for sure situations, and you don't have what you need to start over elsewhere situations, you have the INCH kit ready and take it and the BOB when you leave.

To me a BOB is to get you somewhere where that is set up to meet your immediate needs. Might need supplies for up to a couple of months on the trip and enough gear to allow you to deal with whatever might come up in the process, but presupposes having the things needed to continue life being available in the near future.

INCH bag to me is one that would be used to completely start over with little or no outside assistance. Everything of value, both economically and sentimentally; all documentation; things that won't be easily replaced in the aftermath; much more in the way of supplies to make it through until food harvesting can begin; professional tools/equipment/library if applicable to the new economy. Basically everything you can't afford to lose, don't want to lose, and is capable of being packed up and moved.

You'd put A bible in a BOB, you'd put the FAMILY BIBLE in the INCH kit, a family picture in the BOB, and a thumb drive of all family picture albums in the INCH kit, and so on down the line.

My kits are set up to overlap quite a bit, since living in a multi-story apartment building near downtown, there are many more situations where I won't be able to come back than there are that I will, and my BOL isn't set up to get me started over, other than the very basics. So I have some INCH elements in my basic BOB, and since the BOL is 200 miles away, a lot of additional BOB supplies are in the primary INCH kit to supplement those in the BOB that I would take in either case.


I haven't done it yet, but to make it a true INCH kit, I need to add a couple of cans of LTS seeds; and a more comprehensive and organized financial package, including some key trade good items; and organize and do multiple back ups of computer files relating to subsistence farm, homesteading, starting over, and so on, and get a basic laptop with extra batteries, 12v, and solar chargers to read the data. My INCH plan includes gathering the things up, but I need to get them all together and ready to put on the game cart with the other things.



Here is the BOB/INCH field kit. You can drop most of self-defense gear, and some of the other specialty items. I would keep at least some of the radios capable of monitoring NOAA weather, AM/FM, and Amateur frequencies, even if you don't need the advanced 2-way capability. Note the redundancy, the 4-season capability, and the versatility.


Though the plan is to go to the BOL at my brothers and set up for long term there, I have enough quality hardware and spares to keep me, and my brother and his wife, going until we can get somewhere else if the BOL proves inadequate or unsuitable for some reason. The only problem then is consumables. Three months for one is only a month for three, and some of that would be used getting to the BOL if the truck doesn't run. That is where cash, PMs, and a few key bartering items come in.


Though I do have several other small kits, my primary kit is a general use kit. I keep it ready to go for any emergency. Since I can’t carry much on my back, I use a game cart to handle the overwhelming majority of the items.

And since I have to use it anyway, I take advantage of the weight & space capacity and take rather more than most people recommend. Some of the additional weight and space is in the gear, but much of it, however, is in food. I can last well over a month just on what food I have with me.

If the situation changes, or is such that I must lighten or reduce the size of the load, I can merely drop or cache what I don’t need and keep going. Since I plan for many different situations, and can’t afford the duplication necessary for having a bag for each situation, I went with the following non-specific kit:

Field equipment kit (Evac/BOB/BIB/GOOD/INCH/DHS)

(Well on the way to having it all, but not quite yet.)

(It is a fairly comprehensive pick and choose option list covering all four seasons and the terrain here in the High Desert. Not everyone needs everything. Some items would be left behind or cached, depending on the circumstances here. Other areas would require a different selection. And there are cheaper options available for some of the items for those on a tight budget.)

(Also note that some of the items listed in the sub-kits are not carried together, but are in the backup supplies. I kept them together in the list for clarity)

As to quantities of consumables, since I can carry much more on the game cart than I can on my back, I go for one month plus. I think three days minimum, seven days much better, and a month or more preferred. You will eat more when on the move than when bugging in, so up the amounts you think you would eat by 10% - 25%. Somewhere in the kit should be important documents in a water proof container.

Just my opinions.


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Propper khaki public service Tactical Pants – best quality/price/feature I’ve found
Propper khaki public service Tactical shirt – as above
Bullhide brand brown leather money belt (with 1/10 ounce gold Eagles) – Gold coins for emergencies
Rustedfables The Grizzly Leather Suspenders (brown) – hold the pants up better than elastic ones
Wintersilks Boxer briefs (white) – very light, dries quickly
Wintersilks v-neck T-shirt (white) – very light, dries quickly
Wintersilk silk liner socks – good wicking, very light, dries quickly
Merino wool socks – very warm even when wet
Danner Ft. Lewis boots – just all around good boots w/goretex lining
Akruba Territory Hat with chin strap wide brim hat (brown) – for sun protection
Peltor Comtact II dual radio talk through hearing protection communications headset – best available I’ve found
Petzl TacTikka XP LED headlamp on hat – has the features I want
2 tan bandannas – Gotta have two. One for the nose, one for the neck or whatever
Hatch Operator lightweight gloves – good for mild weather tasks that are hard on the hands.
Hatch XTAK tan elbow pads – I fall down a lot
Hatch XTAK tan knee pads – Ditto above
Timex Automatic Self winding watch – No worries about batteries or winding, good price compared to others
Wiley X JP-2-510 photochromic sunglasses – the only ones of quality I could find
Zippo lighter/Brunton Helos butane lighter – Either will do. Easier to carry fuel for the butane, Zippo works at altitude
Pantac Wallet C wallet w/cash & ID (tan) – just a nice simple nylon wallet. Cash… well, can’t have too much
Maglight Solitare flashlight w/Tectite LED conversion w/AAA battery – extremely bright for 1 AAA
Cold Steel Voyager medium plain edge pocket knife – good size/function/quality/price combination
Spyderco CO8 Harpy pocket clip knife – hawkbill serrated blade for getting out of lines, nets, and is a wicked last ditch weapon
Tec-tite Tekna Ocean Edge Arm knife – an option for the boot knife. Already has harness for arm use
Cold Steel Counter Tac II boot knife – good quality and price if you need a boot knife
Nikon compact binoculars on chest harness (alternate: 7x50 Steiner Commander XP C) – have the Nikons, nice and small and very capable
Write in the rain notebook in left shirt pocket – for note taking. Works well for a nice price
2 Fisher Tactical Space pens in left shirt pocket – can’t lose the cap since there isn’t one. Write anywhere
Arrowtech W-742 Dosimeter in left shirt pocket – if planning for nuke situation. Good price for new production
Arrowtech W-138RM pen type rate meter in left shirt pocket – can use this instead of W-742 plus has rate meter function
Cell phone in right shirt pocket – useful in some situation. Might not work in an emergency, but emergencies aren’t all the time.
Dakota Alert M538-HT MURS hand held radio in pants radio pocket – Best option I’ve found for short rang comms.
Garman Oregon 550T GPS in pants left cargo pouch (opt) – best of the bunch in my opinion, if you’re going to use one
Kestrel 4500NV weather instrument in pants right cargo pouch (opt) – again, the best of the ones I’ve found if you need one
Key ring w/Benchmade knife sharpener, whistle – Sharpener is very small and very effective, whistle is for signaling
Leather change purse w/silver coins (brown) – the coins are for emergencies. The change purse keeps them together, separate from other things in the pocket
Beretta Tomcat .32 ACP w/4 spare magazines in pocket holster in right rear pants pocket – great hideout gun, and the .32 ACP is useable in cartridge adapters in .308 and .30-’06 rifles for almost silent hunting of small game



In FMCO CSV-M10 Vest (4 double magazine pouches, 2 large utility pouches, 2 small utility pouches, 620ci field pack): High quality/military type accepted, purpose built, no mesh, no plastic zippers, no Velcro, pouches made to fit

8 20-round .308 magazine in 4 double pouches – about the maximum I can carry plus the rest of the items in the vest
Brunton 8010G compass in 1st small utility pouch – Very good quality/size/price option
Motorola HT-750 low band business band handheld radio in 2nd small utility pouch – Low Band VHF (just above CB) gives the best medium range comms I think that are available besides Amateur radios Expensive
Survival kit* in first large utility pouch – See below
Hardware and tools kit** in second large utility pouch – See below
MSR 3-liter hydration bladder in attached field pack – MSR is as good or better than the competition. Had good luck with their products. I’m in the high desert. Need a lot of water.


On Tactical Assault Gear MOLLE Belt: - easy adjust, high quality

Glock 21SF in Tactical Taylor MOLLE holster (alternate: ParaOrdnance P-14) – Glock for price & capacity, holster can be configured in several ways
Surefire G2 flashlight in Specter Gear MOLLE pouch – Great basic light, not too expensive. The pouch is the only one I’ve found specifically for the G2
Cold Steel Oda in Spec-Ops MOLLE sheath – Based on the Randal #1, the Oda has a good sheath, but not MOLLE. The Spec-ops sheath solves the problem
IFA kit in Custom Tactical SAR MOLLE pouch*** - See below
Kleen Kanteen 40oz SS water bottle w/fold down loop lid, fold 18oz cup & Maxpedition 4x10 MOLLE carrier – extra capacity/large opening/can be heated/big cup, & the pouch carries both plus room for other things, too.
Soldiers Optimized Butt pack w/GI Poncho & Ranger Rick liner attached, 3 days food (jerky, gorp, Millennium ration bars), Otis Tactical gun cleaning kit, CD V-750 Model 6 manual dosimeter charger – SOB is laid out fairly well. Best of the aftermarkets I’ve found. Ranger Rick liner has head hole and zipper for sleeping bag, Otis Tactical will clean all the weapons I have or plan to get. The V-750M6 doesn’t need batteries to charge dosimeters
Kleen Kanteen 40oz SS water bottle w/fold down loop lid, & Maxpedition 4x10 MOLLE carrier – second one for same reason
OKC-3S bayonet in MOLLE sheath – like the Oda, the OKC-3S is much like the Randle R-1. Comes with the MOLLE sheath
HSGI MOLLE Dump pouch – I like the construction of this one better than the competition for holding empties
Leatherman Surge in one pocket of Spec-Ops brand dual MOLLE pouch – best balance of function vs weight. The dual sheath is easy to adjust and can different sized items
Wenger Survivor Swiss Army Knife in one pocket of Spec-Ops brand dual MOLLE pouch – It’s called the Survivor for a reason.
Spec-Ops brand double MOLLE pouch w/2 pistol magazines – have extra magazines in the other gear. Two is enough. Same thing on the double pouch as above


Kifaru Marauder 2,500ci MOLLE back pack w/cargo chair & gun bearer options – Great quality, the smallest of the Kifaru that will take the cargo chair (I think). The chair and gun bearer let me carry whatever I need and have both hands free

In Marauder:

MSR 3-liter hydration bladder – second bladder. Just have to have plenty of water
SAS Survival Handbook – Best of the field manuals in my opinion.
Food for 3 days (Jerky, gorp, Millennium ration bars) – light, compact, nourishing, and tastes good
Katadyn Hiker Pro water filter w/MP-1 tablets – best of the small filters in my opinion
Extra underwear – standard reasons
Extra socks – standard reasons
Double zip-locked packet of important papers (copies of licenses, deeds, insurance, etc.) – might not be able to recover the originals

On Marauder:

PTR-91 MBR in gunbearer (alternate: Springfield M1A) – best value for the money in a .308. Prefer the .308 for its versatility
Left side 64 oz Kleen Kanteen water bottle in Maxpedition 12 x 5 pouch – just more water. Unlike the bladders, can be poured from canteen to pot
Right side 64 oz Kleen Kanteen water bottle in Maxpedition 12 x 5 pouch – ditto above
Cold Steel E-tool – multipurpose. Digging, cooking, making debris huts, CQC weapon, best of the bunch in my opinion
Cold Steel Rifleman’s tomahawk – prefer a hawk with a hammer head. I like Cold Steel’s quality vs price


Cabela’s Super magnum game cart w/dual wheel option w/ - best one out there

1st Rubbermaid Action Packer 8-gallon tote w/additional clothing
2 sets Propper outerwear
1 set Orvis brown herringbone wool pants & Filson original wool button down shirt – cold weather
2 sets Wintersilks heavyweight silk long john bottom , v-neck top, & liner socks, merino wool socks – for medium cold weather
2 sets Eddie Bauer merino wool long john bottom, zip neck top, liner socks & Carhartt boot socks - for very cold weather
5 sets Wintersilks silk v-neck T-shirts & boxer briefs
5 sets each of: silk liner socks, wool liner socks, merino wool socks, Carhartt wool boot socks
2 sets each of: silk glove liners, wool glove liners
10 bandanas – can’t have too many
1 extra pair Hatch Operator lightweight gloves
1 Travelsmith leather safari coat medium coat (brown) – medium weather
1 pair of Tempest insulated/water proof gloves – cold weather gloves
1 Tasman lined drover’s coat (brown) – Cold weather coat
1 set Hat Flap ear warmers – to keep ears warm when wearing wide brim hat
1 Adventure Medical Kits Backpacker’s sewing kit – small, inexpensive and effective
1 pair Cabela’s Elk moccasins w/shearling lining – for those safe camps in the fall, winter, and spring
1 pair Keen Newport H2 sandals – For water work
1 pair Wiley X Nerve Goggle w/4 spare lenses – Best effective goggles I’ve found for the price
1 Pick-of-life ice escape picks – carried handy in the winter when around the water/ice


2nd Rubbermaid Action Packer 8-gallon tote w/tools, spares, and extras
1 Grand Shelters Icebox Igloo building tool – for deep snow areas, not needed most places
1 Grand Shelters Igloo door ditto above
1 Duraworx mini-planting tool – substitute for the GI pick mattock
1 Channellock Model 88 rescue tool – wire cutter, pry bar, wrench
1 8” mill file – to sharpen axe/machete/e-tool
1 small block & tackle
1 EZE-Lap diamond paddle sharpening set – for extreme sharpening
1 Wyoming knife w/3 spare blades – the classic for skinning big game
300’ coyote brown 550 cord – used for all kinds of things. Can’t have too much
Yaesu VR-500 wide band all mode handheld receiver w/Miracle Ducker LT antenna – smallest, most capable of the all band/all mode handheld receivers. The antenna keeps things compact, but better than the original
1 Yaesu FT-897D w/Miracle Ducker TL tunable whip, Yo-Yo 6-reel dipole antenna – 100w HF/VHF/UHF all mode amateur radio/all band/all mode receiver
1 Dakota Alert M538-HT MURS handheld radio – extra short-range radio
2 Dakota Alert MAPS vehicle detectors w/MURS transmitter – perimeter security works with M538 radios
4 Dakota Alert MAT motion sensors w/MURS transmitters – ditto above
1 Night Watch 2 circuit tripwire alarm w/tripwire – hard to find, but effective and not too expensive
1 Energizer windup LED flashlight – cheap and reliable so far
1 Brunton SolarPort 4.4 & BattJack AA/AAA solar battery charger – keeps AA/AAA nicad rechargeables up to snuff
1 Brunton Solo 15 & 3 Solaris 52 PV panels solar power supply – high priced, but effective portable power
1 Gill net – best fishing option I’ve found
1 Mobley’s Frog/fish gig head w/extra tines & telescoping pole – compact, inexpensive, effective on small game as well as fish and frogs
1 set Bow string, nocks, fletching, binding, various arrowheads, B&A tool – to make expedient bow in the field with best chance of success
1 reel Heavy fish line, for fishing arrows & gig head – don’t want to lose the arrows or gig
1 Dozen Snare One 7x7 5/64” 42” cable snares w/swivel end – some of the best snares in my opinion. Used in lieu of hunting when camped in one place for a while
1 Exploration Products Fresh Water Fishing kit w/kite string winder – nice inexpensive kit. String winder to save the hands from getting cut up on the line
2 CR-1 spares carriers w/G-2 bulb & 6 CR-123A spare batteries each – keep the bulb and batteries together & protected
Extra CR-123A batteries in 4-cell carriers -
Extra AA rechargeable batteries in 4-cell carriers
Extra AAA rechargeable batteries in 6-cell carriers
Extra pair Danner boots – if possible
Extra boot laces
Extra Zippo fuel, spare wicks & flints
Extra butane fuel for lighter
Extra butane torch fuel
Extra first aid supplies
Extra hardware
Extra ammunition in bandoleers
Extra Otis gun cleaning patches and Breakfree CLP


3rd Rubbermaid Action Packer 8-gallon tote w/cooking, water, & sanitations items
1 Sawyer Point Zero Two Absolute 4-liter water purification system – best of the purifiers in my opinion
4 10-liter MSR water bladders – can carry plenty of extra water in a conformable bladder
1 MSR Campers washcloth & towel, AGS Labs Camp soap, compact hair brush, toothbrush & tooth powder, other hygiene items normally used – gotta stay clean
4 Charmin To-Go Toilet paper packets/wipe rags(boiled and sun dried to sanitize) – gotta go
1 Gold Bond Foot powder – essential in very hot or humid conditions
1 Chapstik SPF-15 lip balm – prevents lip burn
1 4oz bottle Herbal 22 Insect repellent – keeps the insects away in a good container
1 pocket pack Q-tips – I have waxy ears.
1 MSR Dragonfly multi-fuel stove – Very effective, good price, reliable
4 MSR fuel bottles – at least one spare. Four are better
1 German GI nesting knife/fork/spoon/can opener set – heavy, but also heavy duty, includes good can opener
1 MSR SS cook set w/tea kettle & kitchen tools – a bit heavy, but tough as all get out
8 SS cooking skewers – for cooking small game, roasting tubers, etc over open fire
1 Coleman SS steel double wall cup – keeps the hot chocolate and hot tea hot for a while in the cold mornings and evenings
1 REI Backpackers fire grill – for when you have an open fire but building a pit/fire ring is difficult or impossible
1 GSI pressure cooker w/liner pot – an option that allows quicker cooking of many dishes. Can leave behind
1 Lodge Cast iron skillet w/lid – for set camps using fresh foods. Can leave behind
1 Lodge Dutch oven w/lid – as above
1 Fire tongs – when planning open fires
1 Grilling basket – as above
1 pair 19” fireplace fireproof gloves – as above


4th Rubbermaid Action Packer 8-gallon tote w/food - basic cooking supplies and foods
Salt
Pepper
beef bouillon
sugar
spices
baking powder
coconut oil
honey
flour
corn meal
powdered milk
lentils
dried beans
rice
tea bags
hot chocolate packets
Emergen-C packets
lemon juice
hard candy
waxed chocolate
Tootsie Rolls
Chickletts 2-piece chewing gum
Millennium ration bars
Snickers Marathon Protein Bars
Jerky
Pemmican http://www.grasslandbeef.com/Detail.bok?no=731
dried fruit
fruit cake
gorp (~equal amounts of premium mixed nuts, chopped dates, and M&Ms)
Mountain House meals
MREs
Instant oats packets
Instant grits packets
Instant potatoes packets
18 ounce SS flask Hennessy Paradis Extra Cognac


5th Rubbermaid Action Packer 8-gallon tote w/more food


Lashed on top of totes:

1 FMCO vest set up for Remington 11-87 shotgun – same as other FMCO vest only for 12 gauge
1 NetPack 5354 wheeled 40” duffel bag w/2 pair silk liner gloves, 2 pair wool liner gloves, pair
Cabela’s Pinnicle Gortex cold weather insulated gloves, Cabela’s Pinnicle Gortex cold weather insulated mittens, Carhartt Arctic Bibs, Carhartt Arctic Parka w/hood, NEOS over boots, Mustang Survival auto inflate flotation vest, Millennium respirator, OptimAir 6A PAPR, CBRN suit, gloves, boots, acc – cold weather and CBRNE gear kept together in one place. Easier to stow in a soft bag than totes
1 set MSR Denali EVO Snow shoes & MSR Denali III poles – if in snow country. Leave behind if not
1 12’ sling rope w/2 snap rings – general purpose short rope. Pulling/lifting/rescue/securing/etc
2 Edelwies 200’ static climbing rope w/set of carabiners & pulleys – Only if you know what you are doing and are likely to need to climb or belay
1 Mountain Hardwear Trango 3.1 3 person/4 season tent w/fly – best compromise of price/size/weight/capability
1 Slumberjack sleep system w/Thermarest self inflating mattress – System is good from warm weather down to -30F. I need lots of comfortable sleep when I can get it.
2 silnylon tarps w/poles, stakes, and para cord – Additional protection when camping on one place for a while
1 Hardigg iM3300 gun case with Remington 11-87 custom shotgun, H&R/NEF .30-’06 single shot scoped rifle w/.32 ACP adapters, (alternate: Remington 700 .30-’06), Glock 30SF spare pistol – Hardigg cases are the best I’ve found for a critical item. The 11-87 is dual purpose. The .30-’06 is sniping/hunting. The G30 is a spare
(optional: 2nd case w/Vigilance VR-1 .408 Cheytac or Remington 700 .375 H&H Mag)
1 Alpacka Fjord Explore cargo raft w/oars, oar frame, seat, attachable skeg – for areas where crossing streams too deep to wade. Small/light/capable
1 D-handle small round point shovel – easier to use than the e-tool in many situations
1 Cold Steel 24” Latin machete – for general machete work. I like the 24” for its capabilities and heft
1 Stanley 30” Entry tool – multipurpose tool for getting into and out of several situations
1 Iltis Oxhead double bit axe – for times when camping in wooded area in the cold call from some serious firewood
1 Sven 21” folding saw – for general use around camp for firewood, poles/etc.
1 ATAS-25 multiband portable antenna w/tripod – a longer range antenna for the FT-897D
1 Fire tripod – when anticipating open fires
1 Fire spit & supports – ditto above
1 Kifaru pulk w/steering & brake package – for deep snow areas. One of the best. Expensive


*Survival Kit (in FMCO vest utility pouch) – I think most of these item are pretty self-explanatory

1 SAS Essential Survival Guide (compact version)
1 Buck 110 folding belt knife
1 Fisher black bullet pen
1 Storm-Saf note pad
1 BCB explorer button compass
1 Mag-Light Mini Maglight 2AA w/Terra-lux LED conversion
8 Energizer AA ultra Lithium battery in two carriers
1 Allweatherfirestarters.com magnesium rod/ferro rod fire starter
2 containers Lifeboat matches
1 8-pack Wet fire tinder
1 Bic lighter
1 leather bootlace to make fire bow
4 Daytrex 4.2 oz water packets
1 Sawyer Point Zero Two Absolute water bottle purifier
1 10”x4” Maxpedition water bottle carrier
1 Storm whistle
2 neck lanyard (whistle & knife)
1 mini can Orange spray paint
1 1”x200’ orange survey tape
1 mini-Air horn
1 Starflash 3”x5” signal mirror
1 TrueFlare penflare kit (launcher, 12 flares, case)
1 emergency hooded space blanket
1 lightweight space blanket bag
1 tube tent
1 300’ 550 cord
1 P-51 can opener
1 old style beer can and bottle opener
1 SS table spoon
4 beef bouillon cubes
12 Millennium energy bars
1 fresh water fishing kit
1 gill net
1 1-liter water bag
1 coffee filter support sheath w/20 filters
4 sheets aluminum foil
1 Esbit stove/Tommy cooker
4 12-count Esbit stove fuel tablets
1 small roll Gorilla duct tape flattened
1 24 gauge x 55’ brass wire
1 pocket chainsaw
4 heavy duty garbage bags
2 Israeli 6” trauma bandages
12 Medique Medi-Lyte heat relief tablets 2-pack
4 alcohol prep pads
4 Pepto Bismo 2-pack
4 Excedrin 2-pak
1 Charmin To Go 55 sheet pack toilet paper
1 pair emergency sunglasses



**Hardware & tools kit list (in FMCO double .223 bandoleer pouch on belt) – extra small tools, plus some items for general use, to make repairs, and to fabricate items in the field. Some are for urban situations.

1 Leatherman Crunch
1 Leatherman Supertool 300
1 Victorinox Swiss Army Work Champ Swiss Army Knife
1 Stanley Multi-tip screwdriver
1 Glass cutter
1 Commercial building outside hydrant key
1 300’ 550 cord
1 Small roll Gorilla duct tape flattened
1 12 gauge x 15’ insulated electrical wire
1 16 gauge x 50’ mechanic’s wire
1 24 gauge x 55’ brass wire
1 Roll 3M ” x 66’ electrical tape
6 popsicle sticks
1 Industrial JB weld
1 Tube of Goop
1 Tube of clear Shoe Goo
1 Small spray can WD-40
1 Small can 3-in-1 oil
12 11” releasable tie-wraps
12 small screw eyes
12 medium screw eyes
12 small screw in J-hooks
12 medium screw in J-hooks
12 4” 10d nails
4 7” spike nails
4 Mini sharpies
1 Mini spray can orange paint
1 1” x 200’ orange survey tape
1 Blazer PB 207 2500 degree micro torch
1 red lumber crayon (for marking trails, coding items, etc)
1 yellow lumber crayon (for marking trails, coding items, etc)
1 box bright pushpins (marking trails, etc.)
1 box clear pushpins (stealthy marking trails, etc.)
12 marbles (to tie off tarp)
12 medium firecrackers (signaling, bear scare, diversion)



***First-aid kit (in one of the FMCO vest utility pouches)(additional supplies on cart) – All the items are my personal preferred items

1 CPR safety shield
4 pair exam gloves
2 1-oz bottle Purell hand sanitizer
10 Therma-Dot single use thermometer
1 Fisher space pen
1 Storm-Saf note pad
4 individual wrapped tongue depressors
4 individual wrapped cotton tip applicators
1 small roll Gorilla duct tape flattened
4 bite sticks
4 ammonia ampoules
1 small flask Everclear 190 proof PGA
4 honey packets (for hot toddies)
4 lemon juice packets (for hot toddies)
2 Camelback Elixir 12-pack electrolyte solution
12 Excedrin 2-pack
12 Alka Seltzer 2-pack
1 25ct bottle Dulcolax laxative
12 Pepto Bismol 2-pack diarrhea medication
12 NyQuill daytime cold medicine 2-pack
12 NyQuill nighttime cold medicine 2-pack
12 Benadryl antihistamine/allergy med 2-pack
2 Chloraseptic throat lozenges 6-pack
3 15g jell glucose
6 hydrocortizone 1/32 oz packet
6 Water-Jel Burn relief 3.5g packets
6 Water-Jel 1/32 oz triple antibiotic ointment packet
4 Sting-kill wipes
4 IvyX cleanser wipes
4 alcohol prep pad
4 PAWS antimicrobial wipes
4 Providone/Iodine prep pad
1 Asherman or other chest seal
1 20cc irrigation syringe
1 250ml bottle sodium chloride irrigation solution
1 4 oz bottle eye wash
1 eye wash cup
1 combat application tourniquet
1 self applied restricting band
1 1”x10yd adhesive tape roll
1 Dr. Scholls moleskin deluxe
4 1”x3” bandaids
4 fingertip bandaids
4 knuckle bandaids
12 ” x 2 7/8” butterfly wound closures
4 2”x3” medium patch bandage
2 2”x4” elbow/knee bandage
2 Emergency Israeli 6” trauma bandage
2 sterile oval gauze eye pad
4 2”x2” gauze pads 2-pack
8 4”x4” gauze pads
1 2” gauze roll
1 4” ace bandage
4 4”x4” Water-Jel burn dressing
2 31”x31”x51” triangular bandage
1 SAM finger splint
1 7 ” utility scissors
1 3 ” tweezers
4 single use Krazy glue
1 surgical stapler kit w/35 staples
1 Sawyer bite & sting kit
1 brown recluse spider F/A kit if in their range
1 deluxe emergency dental kit


Important documents:

Important records should be kept in such a way as to be safe in case of fire, flood, earthquake and other disasters and to have available for quick access when needed.

Keep originals in appropriate places w/copies and/or condensed versions in the various emergency kits including BOBs, BIBs, GHBs, GOOD bags, INCH bags, evacuation kits, hurricane kits, etc.

It is also good to keep a set of copies off-site so they can be retrieved even if you have to leave without anything.


Automotive paperwork: registration, title, insurance card

Business records: Company ID, bylaws, emergency plan, employee contact list, contracts, supplier info, customer info, incorporation records, partnership records, accounts receivable, accounts payable,

Computer records: accounts, passwords, website info, etc

Employment records: Company ID, employee handbook w/emergency plan, pay stub

Family contacts: name, address, telephone numbers, e-mail, code word for proof of identity

Financial records: checking account info, savings account info, bankruptcy decree, credit card info, loan info, utilities info, safe deposit boxes

Future death information: will, funeral arrangements, cemetery plots

Household records: Deed, mortgage, appraisals & inventory of home & contents, warranties

ID: Driver’s license, passport, state ID card, naturalization certificate, permanent resident card, birth certificates, adoption records

Insurance records: Auto, home, health, life, disability, insurance cards, Medicare/Medicaid card, any other insurance cards

Investment records: stocks, bonds, etc

Legal records: marriage certificate, prenups, executor of estate, divorce decree, powers of attorney, death certificates, criminal history, trust documents, military discharge (DD214),

Medical records: Medical Power of Attorney, living will, allergies, prescriptions, current illnesses/problems, past major medical history

Professional help info: Insurance agents, accountant, lawyers, doctor(s), dentist,

Religious records: Christening, baptismal, confirmation,

School records: high school diploma, college diploma, college degrees, trade school diplomas

Tax records: Social Security Card, personal tax records for 3 years, business tax records for 3 years, property tax info


Any questions, feel free to ask. Please remember that I don’t expect everyone to need or want everything on the list. It’s just a reminder of what is available and might be needed for some people in some situations.
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I'm working on an INCH cart, I want way more stuff than I'm willing to pack on my back.
I just ordered a deer cart from Amazon. It will go easily over rough terrain and hold up to 500 lbs. From all that I've read it looks like it will work quite well for this old lady . I usually try to justify what I buy with 'multiple uses', and this will also work great for hauling firewood from the woods or wood-pile to the house...kind of like a big dolly that can go anywhere. There are other ones with all different prices, but I wanted at least 18" wheels.
Here is the link for the one I bought:

After being told that I couldn't do it (laughed at), I was a little concerned with carrying my big Alps Outdoorz pack on my back, now I can just load it on the cart....plus a lot more.
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My BOB is a Kelty Redwing that blends in with the general public quite well.

My INCH bag is a Large Camo Alice pack with Molle attachments (Hellcat).

I figure if things get bad enough for an INCH bag, I might need that camo.
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We are too, this most likely of possibilities has caught my roaming eye:

http://www.burley.com/home/bur/page_...gsup_2013.html

and to pull it maybe this will tickle your fancy

http://www.icetrikes.co/explore-our-trikes/adventure

I started looking at both of these to get a base camp higher up and deeper into the wilderness for hunting etc. The also have possibilities as post TEOTWAWKI vehicles, and suit as INCH vehicles.
Check this out. Its called the mule. mule-245-mpg on u-tube
Its a single wheeled travois. Google it: multipurpose unaxial litter enginery and you can find the patent description, drawings, etc.
We have a travois that we made using a 2 wheeled dolly with handle extensions and solid foam tires that are puncture proof. Will hold 750 pounds. Not suggesting that our INCH weighs that much but the possibility to carry heavy poundage is great. Can use it as a stretcher if needed. Working on a way to make it float without a raft.
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