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Hey everyone, I found this revolver in the bottom drawer of my grandfather's gun cabinet. The barrel was sawed off and there aren't any real ID marks on it except the serial number on the bottom of the grip. The latch to open the revolver is unlike anything else I can find a picture of. Any help is very much appreciated!







Ohh, and I see the date Dec ?? 93 on it. I don't think that's 1993, either.
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Those types of revolvers were exceedingly common around the turn of the 20th century.
Lot's of company made them. You can still find ammo for them. Yours looks like .32 Short.
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Thats an old Ivers Johnson. They were cheap "everyman" guns late 1800 early 1900. Ivers Johnson also made Bicycles. I have one too but with the whole barrel.

google Ivers Johnson.
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Lot's of company made them. You can still find ammo for them. Yours looks like .32 Short.
Mine is a .32 short also. Cant tell you how many times some tries to tell me its a .38 short. The cylinder and barrel dont really line up well either. Ive shot mine about 25 times, oh yea thats how many bullets came in the box.
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Well the reason I'm trying to identify it is so that I can replace a broken spring in the grip. I'm not sure that it can fire ammo containing smokeless powder either, although it was manufactured three years after smokeless powder was patented.

Also, the barrel does not appear to be rifled, but that may be because it was sawed off so short.
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Mine is a .32 short also. Cant tell you how many times some tries to tell me its a .38 short. The cylinder and barrel dont really line up well either. Ive shot mine about 25 times, oh yea thats how many bullets came in the box.
Yeah mine has the same alignment problem.

Good thing I found his two 38 specials that are in good/great condition. Now I have two revolvers to carry, just need to get my permit and start practicing.
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Well the reason I'm trying to identify it is so that I can replace a broken spring in the grip. I'm not sure that it can fire ammo containing smokeless powder either, although it was manufactured three years after smokeless powder was patented.

Also, the barrel does not appear to be rifled, but that may be because it was sawed off so short.
Numrich Arms should have parts
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This site has a lot of information on the thread. I have the exact same revolver, without the barrel sawed off. It was my grandfather's. I posted on this site and a guy on there was able to tell me the year of manufacture and other details from the serial number. Lots of other good history and information as well.

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=47595
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This site has a lot of information on the thread. I have the exact same revolver, without the barrel sawed off. It was my grandfather's. I posted on this site and a guy on there was able to tell me the year of manufacture and other details from the serial number. Lots of other good history and information as well.

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=47595
Yeah, I actually registered there not long ago and saw that b.goforth passed this January. Sad, to say the least.
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Also, do either of you have any idea where I might be able to find the spring for it other than Numrich? They don't have any in stock.
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Thats an old Ivers Johnson. They were cheap "everyman" guns late 1800 early 1900. Ivers Johnson also made Bicycles. I have one too but with the whole barrel.

google Ivers Johnson.
Yep.
There were lots of those and "The American Double Action" offerings from H&R.
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I've got one in .38 short that was my Grandfather's.
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Very interesting little gun, regardless of if it works or not.

I have a .38 that my grandfather carried during the depression that's in similar condition, barrel sawn off and all, that he kept tucked in his back pocket when he was walking near the Savannah docks at, as he put it, the seedier hours of the night. He never did have to pull the trigger, but there were a few times where he was glad that he had it to draw and point at some ruffian with a knife.

I'd say keep it as a safe queen...get it out and show it to your kids and tell them stories, but otherwise don't fire it...those old guns are not ideal SD weapons, in my opinion, and it's not so easy to walk into the gun store and find .38 S&W black powder loading anymore!

Still, excellent little revolver, always fun to see a piece of history.
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That's a nice find. Would've been cooler if it was a Colt Thompson with the proper paperwork.

Here's a little S&W .38 Safety 2nd Model. It was shipped in '88.

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Not sure of the exact type of pistol this is... but the own I have has a slightly longer barrel. S&W CTG/British Service Revolver/Victory Model... one of those.



This is the other pistol I have, a Colt Police Positive.



These aren't the exact guns I have, but mine are both around 95% condition. The Colt has a looser release on the cylinder, while the CTG/BSR/Victory is tight, but not too much so.

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Looks like an Iver Johnson--we used to call them Saturday night specials.
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Almost looks like an owl head. Ive got boxes of those in 32 short
But no ammo lol
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I have an old U.S. Revolver Company .32 top break. From what I've read, Iver Johnson started his company to help sell less expensive versions of their revolvers. I'd be leery firing modern ammo from mine or the one in the OP's photo. I keep mine as a neat conversation piece and because my father-in-law gave it to me before he passed away.
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