Why dont we have state militias anymore?

[556X45]

Originally Posted by METALHEAD1

The basic requirement should be if you can't spell militia, then you probably shouldn't be in a militia.
I think that is a more than fair requirement.

A better requirement would be one who gives a damn about the republic!

[SWZ-Ben]

Originally Posted by VINCENT

someone help explain this to me.

[E]ach and every free able-bodied male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia...[and] every citizen so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch with a box therein to contain not less than twenty-four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball: or with a good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch and powder-horn, twenty balls suited to the bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a pound of powder; and shall appear, so armed, accoutred and provided, when called out to exercise, or into service, except, that when called out on company days to exercise only, he may appear without a knapsack

what has replaced the state malitia, and why does it seem that if "THE PEOPLE" try and form a malitia without the backing of the state(like recently happened near the boarder in Arizona) the government steps in to prevent it?

From http://www.adl.org/mwd/faq5.asp


States with Both Anti-Militia and Anti-Paramilitary Training Laws (7)
-Florida. FLA. STAT. ANN. ch. 870.06, 790.29.
BUT

A. But that doesn't mean their actions are illegal. Whether or not their actions are illegal depend on:

• what they are doing
• what laws are on the books in their jurisdiction
• whether those laws are constitutional

So use your head and network start a club. A state wide preparedness project, Join Alarm and Muster get to know your AO POC and other members.

Lots of people out there just have to know where to look. Operate in the light of day don't bother taking this on if all you want to do is perpetuate the myth of the 90's boogiemen in the shadows hiding, be a positive force in the community and if anyone comes for you they will have to go through your community first!

Befriend your sheriff if possible he is the supreme law of the land in every county.

[METALHEAD1]

Originally Posted by 556X45

A better requirement would be one who gives a damn about the republic!

So anyone can join? Psychos, racists, etc? What about drug users and criminals?

You going to have to have some kind of filter to screen out the bad apples or your just going to have a band of armed thugs in the end.

[SWZ-Ben]

Also for your reading pleasure what started it all.

http://openlibrary.org/books/OL59816...l_and_comments

The **** act of 1902 aka Efficiency of Militia Bill H.R. 11654

This is the first division of the militia. Organized and mustered= State Guard, unorganized = every person with a gun between adulthood ages.

Also I find it amusing no one ever quotes this bill as a source to stomp out small arms ownership of any degree. It is defined our 2nd amendment right to a T what was the intent and future meaning of it.

Just more to read for you.

[556X45]

Originally Posted by METALHEAD1

So anyone can join? Psychos, racists, etc? What about drug users and criminals?

You going to have to have some kind of filter to screen out the bad apples or your just going to have a band of armed thugs in the end.

what I was saying is spelling should not be a requirement. Most of those you just mentioned (IMHO) won't give a tinkers damn about the republic.

[METALHEAD1]

Originally Posted by 556X45

what I was saying is spelling should not be a requirement. Most of those you just mentioned (IMHO) won't give a tinkers damn about the republic.

How would you know? Anyone can claim anything and usually will in such a situation

[SWZ-Ben]

Originally Posted by METALHEAD1

So anyone can join? Psychos, racists, etc? What about drug users and criminals?

You going to have to have some kind of filter to screen out the bad apples or your just going to have a band of armed thugs in the end.

This is something every individual must be responsible for that is the safety net, its called constant vigilance as soon as one person slacks well go outside, turn the tv on and look around that IS what you get.

But the danger does exist and you should acknowledge the fact that if you let other think for you good or bad your going to end up like the hutaree.

If something is wrong it's wrong period never go along with something if your heart says no.

[Craig]

Originally Posted by SWZ-Ben

Each state has either anti-paramilitary, or anti-militas laws on the books post civil war. Some have both. For example The state I live in this is the official law of the land here:

-Alabama. ALA. CODE s 31-2-125-

Quoted from: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/alcode/31/2/31-2-125

Any two or more persons, whether with or without uniform, who associate, assemble or congregate together by or under any name in a military capacity for the purpose of drilling, parading or marching at any time or place or otherwise take up or bear arms in any such capacity without authority of the Governor, must, on conviction, be fined not more than $1,000.00. This section does not apply to any school or college where military training and instruction is given under the provisions of state or federal laws, nor to the order of Knights of Templar, Knights of Pythias, Patriarchs Militant or Uniform Rank Woodmen of the World.
(Acts 1936, Ex. Sess., No. 143, p. 105; Code 1940, T. 35, §176; Acts 1973, No. 1038, p. 1572, §126.)

I believe you about those state laws regarding militias but how often are people arrested, charged and convicted unless they are doing something stupid like manufacturing automatic weapons, bombs, grenades and so on? I have never heard of a law enforcement raid on any militia for gathering to drill, parade or otherwise train.

2nd Alabama Militia, Co. A seems to have been around for more than five years and have a web site. They don't seem to be concerned about violating the law. Maybe they operate in a way that doesn't violate any laws.

Here is a list I found regarding laws against militias. I can't say if it is accurate but here it is...

States with Both Anti-Militia and Anti-Paramilitary Training Laws (7)

-Florida. FLA. STAT. ANN. ch. 870.06, 790.29.
-Georgia. GA. CODE ANN. ss 38-2-277, 16-11-150 to -152.
-Idaho. IDAHO CODE ss 46-802, 18-8101 to -8105.
-Illinois. ILL. REV. STAT. ch. 1805, para. 94-95.
-New York. N.Y. MIL. LAW s 240.
-North Carolina. N.C. GEN. STAT. ss 127A-151, 14-288.20.
-Rhode Island. R.I. GEN. LAWS ss 30-12-7, 11-55-1 to -3.


States with Anti-Militia Laws Only (17)

-Alabama. ALA. CODE s 31-2-125.
-Arizona. ARIZ. REV. STAT. ANN. s 26-123.
-Iowa. IOWA CODE s 29A.31.
-Kansas. KAN. STAT. ANN. s 48-203.
-Kentucky. KY. REV. STAT. ANN. s 38.440.
-Maine. ME. REV. STAT. ANN. tit. 37-B, s 342.2.
-Maryland. MD. CODE ANN. art. 65, s 35.
-Massachusetts. MASS. GEN. L. ch. 33, s 129-132.
-Minnesota. MINN. STAT. s 624.61.
-Mississippi. MISS. CODE ANN. $ 33-1-31.
-Nevada. NEV. REV. STAT. s 203-080.
-New Hampshire. N.H. REV. STAT. ANN. s 111:15.
-North Dakota. N.D. CENT. CODE s 37-01-21.
-Texas. TEX. GOV'T CODE ANN. s 431.010.
-Washington. WASH. REV. CODE s 38.40.120.
-West Virginia. W. VA. CODE s 15-1F-7.
-Wyoming. WYO. STAT. s 19-1-106.


States with Anti-Paramilitary Training Laws Only (17)

-Arkansas. ARK. CODE s 5-71-301 to -303.
-California. CAL. PENAL CODE s 11460.
-Colorado. COLO. REV. STAT. s 18-9-120.
-Connecticut. CONN. GEN. STAT. s 53-206b.
-Louisiana. LA. REV. STAT. ANN. s 117.1.
-Michigan. MICH. COMP. LAWS s 750.528a.
-Missouri. MO. REV. STAT. s 574.070.
-Montana. MONT. CODE ANN. s 45-8-109.
-Nebraska. NEB. REV. STAT. s 28-1480 to -1482.
-New Jersey. N.J. REV. STAT. s 2C:39-14.
-New Mexico. N.M. STAT. ANN. s 30-20A-1 to -4.
-Oklahoma. OKLA. STAT. ANN. tit. 21, s 1321.10.
-Oregon. OR. REV. STAT. s 166.660.
-Pennsylvania. 18 PA. CONS. STAT. s 5515.
-South Carolina. S.C. CODE ANN. s 16-8-10 to -30.
-Tennessee. TENN. CODE ANN. s 39-17-314.
-Virginia. VA. CODE ANN. s 18.2-433.1 to -433.3.

There are literally hundreds of militias across the country.

Here are the results of my five minute Google search. Virtually all of these and more are listed by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) so I'm not exactly sharing anything that is secret (in case anyone is wondering.) I'm just wondering how these groups continue to operate?

http://alaskacitizensmilitia.com/
http://www.americanborderpatrol.com/
http://mohaveminutemen.com/
http://arizonaterritorymilitia.blogs...e-who-are.html
http://www.arizonamilitia.com./
http://www.apfn.org/
http://www.cochisecountymilitia.org/
http://www.cosdf.us/
http://floridafreemilitia.com/index.html
http://www.gamilitia.com/
http://www.georgiamilitia.net/
http://www.erpn.org/
http://www.northidaho21lightfoot.org/
http://www.jackmclamb.com/
http://www.freewebs.com/garand69/index.htm
http://www.ilstm.bravehost.com/
http://www.indianamilitia.org./
http://btln19ism.synthasite.com/
http://indianasonsofliberty.com/body.asp
http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian...81/index.html/
http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian...n/881/gcm.html
http://www.delta5mlim.webs.com/
http://www.ovfreedomfighters.com/index.html
http://frost.bbboy.net/themainepatriotboard
http://unitedmilitiasofmaine.webs.com/
http://www.volunteermilitia.com/
http://michiganmilitia.com/
http://mmcw8thdiv.22web.net/
http://nmbpm.webs.com/
http://www.michiganmilitia.com/SMVM/smvm.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/westmivolunteermilitia/
http://www.minnesotamilitia.8k.com/
http://mississippimilitia.us/
http://www.mississippimilitia.us/
http://www.attalamilitia.webs.com/
http://www.missourimilitia.com/
http://3rdbrigade.missourimilitia.com/index.html
http://8thbrigade.missourimilitia.com/
http://www.nebraskamilitia.com/
http://www.constitution.org/mil/ne/mil_usne.htm
http://tallgrassguard.tripod.com/
http://www.ncmilitia.org/
http://vmnd.synthasite.com/
http://www.sodf.org/
https://www.unitedstatesmilitia.com/...ead.php?t=2617
http://www.ohiomilitia.com/
http://champaigncounty.tripod.com/
http://sodf.org/
http://www.neodf.org/
http://nwodf.org/
http://champaigncounty.tripod.com/id11.html
http://www.oregonwatchmen.org/
http://oregonmilitia.homestead.com/
http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/s_o_m_.htm
http://www2.1stpa-militia.net/forum/index.php?
http://www.freewebs.com/pamilitia/index.htm
http://wolfcreekrangers.yolasite.com/
http://texasmilitia.info/
http://www.texaspatriotmilitia.org./
http://www.southwest-desert-militia.us/forum/
http://www.dallascitytroop.org/
http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium...fv/militia.htm
http://www.14thff.9f.com/index.html
http://virginiacitizenmilitia.org/phpbb3/index.php
http://www.75thbn10thff.freehosting.net/
http://www.virginiacitizenmilitia.org/
http://www.wa63lightfoot.us/
http://kissata.homestead.com/
http://www.angelfire.com/wa3/1mtn/index.html
http://www.grantcountymilitia.com/
http://kingcountymilitia.com/
http://www.18thwashingtonvolunteers.org/
http://graysharborciviliandefenseforce.weebly.com/
http://www.angelfire.com/wa3/nwwr1/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NWWashingtonMilitia/
http://washingtonstatemilitia.org/links.html#
http://graysharborciviliandefensefor...cers-only.html
http://kansasstatemilitia.webs.com/
http://www.la-st-militia-10th-brigade.org/
http://www.militiaofmontana.com/
http://www.njmilitia.org/
http://www.11th-ff-esm.org/
http://webspace.webring.com/people/c...er0336/ao.html
http://www.jekyllislandproject.com/default.aspx
http://www.patriotnetwork.info/
http://www.lawfulpath.com/
http://www.freewebs.com/easttennesseemilitia/
http://www.constitution.org/mil/nm/lea.htm

I don't have the answers

[cowboy56]

nearly all states have those laws and nearly all states are not going to actually enforce any one of them... to much of a risk of vilolating the rights we have under the constitution...unless any one of those groups have done something illegal there is actually nothing that can be legally done without cause and reason...


sorry here... but the SPLC can go screw themselves.. they are nearly the worst thing that has ever walked, crawled, or slithered across the dirt... they stir up more anger and lies than they are even smart enough to know about.... yet, they will almost never list a group (unless they are pressured) that is pro left progressive or pro obammy...

[SWZ-Ben]

Originally Posted by Craig

I believe you about those state laws regarding militias but how often are people arrested, charged and convicted unless they are doing something stupid like manufacturing automatic weapons, bombs, grenades and so on? I have never heard of a law enforcement raid on any militia for gathering to drill, parade or otherwise train.

I can not speak for my state but what usually happens is the state batf or sheriffs come and start questioning you and after that everyone stops or goes underground so to speak.

2nd Alabama Militia, Co. A seems to have been around for more than five years and have a web site. They don't seem to be concerned about violating the law. Maybe they operate in a way that doesn't violate any laws.

Every single alabama milita website or militas in alabama listed on the web are defunct. None exist in any capacity and the sites not updates during this president's term.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268726,00.html
and
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3089125

Here is a list I found regarding laws against militias. I can't say if it is accurate but here it is...

I quoted the ADL earlier same site, but yea anti militia laws are not as big a deal as anti-para military.

States with Both Anti-Militia and Anti-Paramilitary Training Laws (7)

-Florida. FLA. STAT. ANN. ch. 870.06, 790.29.
-Georgia. GA. CODE ANN. ss 38-2-277, 16-11-150 to -152.
-Idaho. IDAHO CODE ss 46-802, 18-8101 to -8105.
-Illinois. ILL. REV. STAT. ch. 1805, para. 94-95.
-New York. N.Y. MIL. LAW s 240.
-North Carolina. N.C. GEN. STAT. ss 127A-151, 14-288.20.
-Rhode Island. R.I. GEN. LAWS ss 30-12-7, 11-55-1 to -3.


States with Anti-Militia Laws Only (17)

-Alabama. ALA. CODE s 31-2-125.
-Arizona. ARIZ. REV. STAT. ANN. s 26-123.
-Iowa. IOWA CODE s 29A.31.
-Kansas. KAN. STAT. ANN. s 48-203.
-Kentucky. KY. REV. STAT. ANN. s 38.440.
-Maine. ME. REV. STAT. ANN. tit. 37-B, s 342.2.
-Maryland. MD. CODE ANN. art. 65, s 35.
-Massachusetts. MASS. GEN. L. ch. 33, s 129-132.
-Minnesota. MINN. STAT. s 624.61.
-Mississippi. MISS. CODE ANN. $ 33-1-31.
-Nevada. NEV. REV. STAT. s 203-080.
-New Hampshire. N.H. REV. STAT. ANN. s 111:15.
-North Dakota. N.D. CENT. CODE s 37-01-21.
-Texas. TEX. GOV'T CODE ANN. s 431.010.
-Washington. WASH. REV. CODE s 38.40.120.
-West Virginia. W. VA. CODE s 15-1F-7.
-Wyoming. WYO. STAT. s 19-1-106.


States with Anti-Paramilitary Training Laws Only (17)

-Arkansas. ARK. CODE s 5-71-301 to -303.
-California. CAL. PENAL CODE s 11460.
-Colorado. COLO. REV. STAT. s 18-9-120.
-Connecticut. CONN. GEN. STAT. s 53-206b.
-Louisiana. LA. REV. STAT. ANN. s 117.1.
-Michigan. MICH. COMP. LAWS s 750.528a.
-Missouri. MO. REV. STAT. s 574.070.
-Montana. MONT. CODE ANN. s 45-8-109.
-Nebraska. NEB. REV. STAT. s 28-1480 to -1482.
-New Jersey. N.J. REV. STAT. s 2C:39-14.
-New Mexico. N.M. STAT. ANN. s 30-20A-1 to -4.
-Oklahoma. OKLA. STAT. ANN. tit. 21, s 1321.10.
-Oregon. OR. REV. STAT. s 166.660.
-Pennsylvania. 18 PA. CONS. STAT. s 5515.
-South Carolina. S.C. CODE ANN. s 16-8-10 to -30.
-Tennessee. TENN. CODE ANN. s 39-17-314.
-Virginia. VA. CODE ANN. s 18.2-433.1 to -433.3.

There are literally hundreds of militias across the country.

Here are the results of my five minute Google search. Virtually all of these and more are listed by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) so I'm not exactly sharing anything that is secret (in case anyone is wondering.) I'm just wondering how these groups continue to operate?

http://alaskacitizensmilitia.com/
http://www.americanborderpatrol.com/
http://mohaveminutemen.com/
http://arizonaterritorymilitia.blogs...e-who-are.html
http://www.arizonamilitia.com./
http://www.apfn.org/
http://www.cochisecountymilitia.org/
http://www.cosdf.us/
http://floridafreemilitia.com/index.html
http://www.gamilitia.com/
http://www.georgiamilitia.net/
http://www.erpn.org/
http://www.northidaho21lightfoot.org/
http://www.jackmclamb.com/
http://www.freewebs.com/garand69/index.htm
http://www.ilstm.bravehost.com/
http://www.indianamilitia.org./
http://btln19ism.synthasite.com/
http://indianasonsofliberty.com/body.asp
http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian...81/index.html/
http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian...n/881/gcm.html
http://www.delta5mlim.webs.com/
http://www.ovfreedomfighters.com/index.html
http://frost.bbboy.net/themainepatriotboard
http://unitedmilitiasofmaine.webs.com/
http://www.volunteermilitia.com/
http://michiganmilitia.com/
http://mmcw8thdiv.22web.net/
http://nmbpm.webs.com/
http://www.michiganmilitia.com/SMVM/smvm.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/westmivolunteermilitia/
http://www.minnesotamilitia.8k.com/
http://mississippimilitia.us/
http://www.mississippimilitia.us/
http://www.attalamilitia.webs.com/
http://www.missourimilitia.com/
http://3rdbrigade.missourimilitia.com/index.html
http://8thbrigade.missourimilitia.com/
http://www.nebraskamilitia.com/
http://www.constitution.org/mil/ne/mil_usne.htm
http://tallgrassguard.tripod.com/
http://www.ncmilitia.org/
http://vmnd.synthasite.com/
http://www.sodf.org/
https://www.unitedstatesmilitia.com/...ead.php?t=2617
http://www.ohiomilitia.com/
http://champaigncounty.tripod.com/
http://sodf.org/
http://www.neodf.org/
http://nwodf.org/
http://champaigncounty.tripod.com/id11.html
http://www.oregonwatchmen.org/
http://oregonmilitia.homestead.com/
http://www.inlibertyandfreedom.com/s_o_m_.htm
http://www2.1stpa-militia.net/forum/index.php?
http://www.freewebs.com/pamilitia/index.htm
http://wolfcreekrangers.yolasite.com/
http://texasmilitia.info/
http://www.texaspatriotmilitia.org./
http://www.southwest-desert-militia.us/forum/
http://www.dallascitytroop.org/
http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium...fv/militia.htm
http://www.14thff.9f.com/index.html
http://virginiacitizenmilitia.org/phpbb3/index.php
http://www.75thbn10thff.freehosting.net/
http://www.virginiacitizenmilitia.org/
http://www.wa63lightfoot.us/
http://kissata.homestead.com/
http://www.angelfire.com/wa3/1mtn/index.html
http://www.grantcountymilitia.com/
http://kingcountymilitia.com/
http://www.18thwashingtonvolunteers.org/
http://graysharborciviliandefenseforce.weebly.com/
http://www.angelfire.com/wa3/nwwr1/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NWWashingtonMilitia/
http://washingtonstatemilitia.org/links.html#
http://graysharborciviliandefensefor...cers-only.html
http://kansasstatemilitia.webs.com/
http://www.la-st-militia-10th-brigade.org/
http://www.militiaofmontana.com/
http://www.njmilitia.org/
http://www.11th-ff-esm.org/
http://webspace.webring.com/people/c...er0336/ao.html
http://www.jekyllislandproject.com/default.aspx
http://www.patriotnetwork.info/
http://www.lawfulpath.com/
http://www.freewebs.com/easttennesseemilitia/
http://www.constitution.org/mil/nm/lea.htm

I don't have the answers

Virtually every single one of those sites is dead and not update nor can anyone be reached. Asked me how I know. A better resource would to have been to send them to AWRM.org or Modern Minute Men

Here is the question every prospective militia member should be asking before they organize. If I am caught and questioned while in what my law would consider a formation or meeting will I be armed or not. Most militia men have permits for CC. That being said you just took that state misdemenor and made it an out right weapons class felony as you were armed during a crime.

You do not pass go you do not collect $200 you go straight to federal prison for 15 years. So the reason why their are no real militias is because the word has a law against it and brings to many keyboard commando's along that totally full of crap and only cause trouble.

Plenty of gun clubs, airsoft/paintball, hunt flubs, gun clubs or wilderness related survival stuffs that are in fact 100% militia with out ever using the word.

Keep your powder dry.

[SWZ-Ben]

Originally Posted by cowboy56

nearly all states have those laws and nearly all states are not going to actually enforce any one of them... to much of a risk of vilolating the rights we have under the constitution...unless any one of those groups have done something illegal there is actually nothing that can be legally done without cause and reason...


sorry here... but the SPLC can go screw themselves.. they are nearly the worst thing that has ever walked, crawled, or slithered across the dirt... they stir up more anger and lies than they are even smart enough to know about.... yet, they will almost never list a group (unless they are pressured) that is pro left progressive or pro obammy...

They seem to do it here pretty regularly.

[cowboy56]

do what...??? List groups of people that are right or what?

[Craig]

Originally Posted by cowboy56

nearly all states have those laws and nearly all states are not going to actually enforce any one of them... to much of a risk of vilolating the rights we have under the constitution...unless any one of those groups have done something illegal there is actually nothing that can be legally done without cause and reason...

I think THIS ^ is why I don't hear of people going to jail for being in a militia. I've never heard of a militia being busted for being a militia or for members of a militia being busted just for being members of a militia. Always there is some possession of a physical object that is illegal. Like 120 pot plants, pipe bombs, illegal possession of automatic firearms, etc. I doubt that prohibitions against militias or militia training activities would hold up if any case ever made it to the Supreme Court.

SWZ-Ben, I'll take your word on the Alabama sites being defunct.

Originally Posted by SWZ-Ben

Virtually every single one of those sites is dead and not update nor can anyone be reached. Asked me how I know.

Actually they all come up for me and a good number have updates on activities for July, August and September, etc. 2010. The one Alabama site looks like it hasn't been updated since 2008.

[METALHEAD1]

Originally Posted by SWZ-Ben

Virtually every single one of those sites is dead and not update nor can anyone be reached. Asked me how I know. A better resource would to have been to send them to AWRM.org or Modern Minute Men

Here is the question every prospective militia member should be asking before they organize. If I am caught and questioned while in what my law would consider a formation or meeting will I be armed or not. Most militia men have permits for CC. That being said you just took that state misdemenor and made it an out right weapons class felony as you were armed during a crime.

You do not pass go you do not collect $200 you go straight to federal prison for 15 years. So the reason why their are no real militias is because the word has a law against it and brings to many keyboard commando's along that totally full of crap and only cause trouble.

Plenty of gun clubs, airsoft/paintball, hunt flubs, gun clubs or wilderness related survival stuffs that are in fact 100% militia with out ever using the word.

Keep your powder dry.

There is one for my county. It would be nice to meet at least one person in this liberal ****hole who thought like I did.

[SWZ-Ben]

Originally Posted by METALHEAD1

There is one for my county. It would be nice to meet at least one person in this liberal ****hole who thought like I did.

I feel your pain here we have a bunch of rebel flag waving asshats. Lots of talk like good ol boy M vando or whatever who calls for trashing public offices and throwing bricks through windows.

Leaderless resistance my friends, no trouble that way, if shtf people will work together or die. Networking a training, as in actual practice in the mean time.

Just use your heads is what I'm trying to say.

[VINCENT]

representitive john w. patman, a texas democrat, noted the constitutional safeguard provided by the framers against abuse of power by the president, who controlled both the army and the militias when federalized.
the amswer was,"the people have a right to bear arms. the people have a right to keep arms; therefore, if we should have some executive who attempted to set himself up as a dictator or king, the people can organize themselves together and, with the arms and ammunition they have, they can properly protect themselves...
if we permit the people here in wasington to compel the peopleall over the nation to turn in their arms, theri amunition, then the chief exective, whoever he is gets control of the army and the militia, how the people be able to protect themselves."

this is from the book "the global war on your guns", by wayne lapierre. a book about the U.N. plan to destroy your bill of rights

[VINCENT]

Originally Posted by SWZ-Ben

From http://www.adl.org/mwd/faq5.asp


States with Both Anti-Militia and Anti-Paramilitary Training Laws (7)
-Florida. FLA. STAT. ANN. ch. 870.06, 790.29.
BUT

A. But that doesn't mean their actions are illegal. Whether or not their actions are illegal depend on:

• what they are doing
• what laws are on the books in their jurisdiction
• whether those laws are constitutional

So use your head and network start a club. A state wide preparedness project, Join Alarm and Muster get to know your AO POC and other members.

Lots of people out there just have to know where to look. Operate in the light of day don't bother taking this on if all you want to do is perpetuate the myth of the 90's boogiemen in the shadows hiding, be a positive force in the community and if anyone comes for you they will have to go through your community first!

Befriend your sheriff if possible he is the supreme law of the land in every county.

although i'm not actually looking to join a militia i appreciate the info. i was just wondering because of the anitmilitia laws. it seem to me that our government is using those laws to prevent us from defending ourselfs from them. oh and thanks for the florida info. that is where im at.

[uga1983]

Still active in South Carolina. South Carolina State Guard.
http://sg.sc.gov/

[SouthernPride]

Originally Posted by Gronk

Ok, so the OP has issues with spell check. Big deal, get over it.

Militia's have been on the decline since the Indians stopped rading our villages and our opressive British overlords were driven from this land. We now have the State Police / Patrol &/or the National Guard for dirty work like quelling riots and such. The Continental army has been expanded and now in violation of our founders views is now a standing army.

The other issue is: If mere subjects were permitted to have the same military weapons as our armed forces the subjects might rise up and overthrow their state governments or even presume to remove the pesky Federalists from office and restore the "worthless paper" this Republic was founded upon.

So, be your own militia (note the small "m"). You don't need to worry about rank, insignia, or uniforms. Know someone good at organizing ? There's your Quartermaster. Got someone who knows tatics ? Then you have a potential commander.

Stay small, pratice your marksmanship and tatics and stay off the radar.

When you're outraged, grab your gun and go outside.

If you're alone, it's not yet time.

Keep your powder dry and Godspeed to you.

I agree with you,untill you called The Constitution a worthless pice of paper, i do believe you were being sarcastic about it. Im sorry,but that so called "WORTHLESS PIECE OF PAPER IS WHAT I WILL DIE FOR" and thanks for that info.

[rdunne]

Originally Posted by Texas Pete

They still do here in Texas. We call it the Texas State Guard. This is one of three Military Branches run by the state of Texas the other two are the Texas National Guard and the Texas Air National Guard.

They are not paid and are rarely armed (but can be).

http://www.txsg.state.tx.us/

Tennessee also has a State Guard. They are also not paid, very rarely armed, and mostly made up of old retirees.