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Old 01-16-2010, 11:11 AM
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OK, somewhere down the line the Bic lighter company came up with
the bright idea for yet another variant on the "child safety" device.

The latest incarnation of this stupidity is a spring steel band that
wraps around the flint thumb-wheel of the lighter. This makes the
lighter much more difficult to operate, presumably frustrating children
to the point of insanity and causing them to go in search of amusement
elsewhere. For the adults in the crowd, the lighter wheel is now a
bear to operate under the best of conditions, and damn-near-impossible
if your fingers are cold, wet, or otherwise slippery.

The offending steel spring safety device can be seen nestled maliciously
between the two gear-like thumb-wheels in the picture below:


However, after a few minutes of experiementing, I've found that the
safety device can be easily removed without damaging the lighter.

Simply work a small flat-bladed screwdriver or tip of a knife blade
between the steel spring and the thumb-wheel. Pry upward gently.
That will then give you enough wiggle room to work the jaws of a
pair of needle-nose pliers around the spring. Work the spring back
and forth a few times and it will pop loose from its mount, down
somewhere between the thumb-wheel and and orange push button
on the left hand side of the photo. Then you can disengage the
other side of the spring from its connection near the flame point
of the lighter.

Presto -- you have a Bic lighter that works a whole heck of a lot easier.
Bic?! Are you listening??! Your infernal safety device has been defeated!
Bahahahahaha!!!

Note 1: When you're working the spring loose with the pliers, the
thumb-wheel will flex its mounts alarmingly. However, I've neutered
10 of these lighters so far and the spring safety device has always
given way before the thumb-wheel reached a breaking point.

Note 2: Definitely use a pair of pliers for the final spring removal.
The first few I did, I pried the spring completely out just using a
screwdriver tip for leverage. The spring ends up shooting out of
the lighter uncontrolled at about Mach 2.7, and it's a fairly sharp
little guy. At least wear some safety glasses if you're not going to
control the spring release with a pair of pliers.

I know -- it's just a lighter, but that safety spring really managed to
screw up an otherwise fine product. So just thought I would share.

(And yeah, I know the limitations of lighters -- don't work well in the
cold, evaporate the fuel after a few years, etc. I also keep matches
and fire steel in my BOBs, but a lighter sure is a handy option also.)
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Thanks, Varmit. My wife has arthritis in her fingers and with this fix, she can now light the mighty Bic!
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I've been doing this since that little band came out,just grab it with a set of needle nose pliers and rip it out problem solved in less than a second.
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I used to do that with my teeth in high-school. Before I had to pay for my own dental bills LOL
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Better yet, boycott Bic lighters and let the market take care of the problem. Buy Bic's competitors' product. TP
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I could never light one of these - I thought the safety in the middle needed to spin, and I could never do it. Because of this, I went probably 4 - 5 months of having people light and hold lighters for me, and laugh endlessly at me when they asked me to try myself.

BF eventually realized we could do this to lighters, then I could light them myself
I figured it out a couple months after I started using the dumbed down BICs how to light it with the safety, but I still get him to take it out for me
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Ha! Ok, so I see from the multiple responses that I'm not
the first person to come up with this fix.

Just sitting here with a big grin, thinking of Bic putting that
infernal spring in all their lighters, and all the consumers
tearing the darn thing out of there as soon as they get
their hands on it.
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I never could figure out how to do this, but.....all the kids know how!
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I really miss the old bic lighters that had an adjustable flame on them. The new ones are set so low, that it is almost impossible to light something with the wind blowing, because you don't have enough of a flame to keep the dang thing lit. Any fixes to that problem???
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just effectively neutered 3 of my 6 edc Bic's. Thanks for the info.
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You guys know this is gonna void your warranty!
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I really miss the old bic lighters that had an adjustable flame on them. The new ones are set so low, that it is almost impossible to light something with the wind blowing, because you don't have enough of a flame to keep the dang thing lit. Any fixes to that problem???
if you pop the front metal cover off you can still get in their with a pair of needle nose pliers and adjust the flame up just squeeze the metal cap and place it back on the lighter.
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You guys know this is gonna void your warranty!
LOL............thanks for the good laugh

good one......
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I have been doing it since they came out with them. I just hope they do not change them.
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Those steps are good, sure, but you can just take a flathead or a dull knife and stick it under the band and pry up.

It will go flying off.
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I'm surprised there needed to be a thread about this. I thought this was common knowledge for like ten years.. I think I might have to add to this.

The flint flare:

Remove safety band. Pop out steel grinder wheel. Remove flint and flint tension spring. Open the coils of the spring slightly by pulling. Use the coils of the spring to "capture" the flint. Basically just get it kinked in there, wrapped around etc.. Use another lighter to heat up the flint. Get flint and spring red hot. Keep heating another ten seconds.

Now..... quickly throw the hot flint against a HARD surface. Concrete, a window pane, some dudes car...

And shabam! The flint cracks and explodes into many tiny, brilliant white particles, which can be kicked at for more showers of sparks.
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Apparently none of you are smokers or pyros. I can light a standard bic lighter with my pinky finger (and i've been doin construction work for 25 years so my hands have seen a bit of punishment) if you cant light a cigarette in 20 mph winds you don't really want to smoke. Stand behind something, use your jacket as a wind break,theres lots of ways to cut down wind. If you put them in an inside pocket and keep them a little warm they light easier, dont get the filnt wet or it won't work.

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Lol stickdog, I post about how to make your lighter's bits explode and you say none of us are pyros? It was me who lit the smokebombs in the school!!!!
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Only wussies use Bic lighters, I use a Zippo.
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If the bic accidentally makes its way through the washer and dryer it comes out with a much larger flame. If the lighter is too cold to light, just rub it back and forth between your hands and it's good to go. I too thought the safety removal was common knowledge, maybe only among smokers though.
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