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Old 11-18-2009, 05:44 PM
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I learned Medicare/Mediciad 101... the HARD WAY.... my 96yr old Grandmother, fell, in the nursing home, and broke her hip. That was on March 15th, 2005. She had emergency surgery, as a result. This old ITALIAN P!SS FIRE OF WOMAN seemed to fare well, from the surgery!!! LOL

Here comes the problem.... she was sitting at the Nursing Home Dinner Room, having her supper at 6pm... and suddenly... she was UNRESPONSIVE!!! This was April 10th. Do the math.... THIS WAS LESS THAN ONE MONTH LATER!!!!

She had a Stroke!!! We are pretty confident, this stroke was somehow related to her fall/surgery.

WE LEARNED.... THAT MEDICARE/MEDICAID DOESN'T PAY FOR END OF LIFE!!!! Nope!!!

She actually got KICKED OUT OF THE Medicare/Medicaid system. The HOSPICE program had to kick in.

Ya see.... the Medi system ONLY PAYS FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN LIFE.... NOT THE LAST OF LIFE!!! Once you START FAILING IN CARE... THE MEDI SYSTEM BAILS OUT!!!! (THEY ONLY PAY FOR IMPROVEMENTS!!!)

They DON'T pay when your life is FAILING.....

Once she showed signs of FAILING.... the Gov Medi system.... DENIED BENEFITS.... HOSPICE had to kick in.....

This 96 yr old woman broke her hip, on March 15th. She died on April 13th... 2 days short of the ONE month Anniversary. More importantly... she died ONE MONTH SHORT OF HER 97TH B-DAY. (May 12th)
My condolences on the loss of your grandmother. It sounds as if she had both a long and inspiring life. It is fortunate that she had Medicare until it could no longer enhance her life.

When Medicare ended, she was not abandoned by the system, she was only transferred to a different program called Hospice which is a wonderful program that provides support to both the dying and the family. Hospice does a remarkable job and we should all be grateful that it is there.

It is sad that our loved ones cannot endure forever. Losing someone we are close to is one of the hardest things we ever have to go through.
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123, Im so sorry about your Grandma.

I have heard similar stories, isnt it crazy?
Not so crazy. When people are dying they and their families need many different, more specialized and kinder services than those receiving medical treatment to continue life. It isn't surprising that they are turned over to people who specialize in meeting their special needs.
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:55 PM
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Ok. How many pages has this argument been going on? ...etc.
Thank you for your post. Here I was saying that there would be adequate people who would work voluntarily and no one believed it. Then, you pop up and prove the point.

Keep on pushing that lawn mower. I'm definitely in favor of you doing it for what ever reason floats your boat.
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Old 11-18-2009, 06:13 PM
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:39 PM
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SSanf, you preach this utopia of the world's majority populace not having to work, allowed to spend their time lounging and in pursuit of leisurely activities.

What about our current situation? Should we all walk away from jobs right now? If we do, won't we never reach this "utopia"? What is your proposal?
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SSanf, you preach this utopia of the world's majority populace not having to work, allowed to spend their time lounging and in pursuit of leisurely activities.

What about our current situation? Should we all walk away from jobs right now? If we do, won't we never reach this "utopia"? What is your proposal?
No, it is going to be a natural progression. What you need to do now is to wrap your mind around the idea that the work ethic is not going to be what determines a person's value and personal worth in the near future. If you cannot incorporate that idea into your own value system, you will be at a distinct disadvantage to those who do. That stubborn clinging to ideas that don't work anymore are going to cause you and the people who depend on you unneeded hardship.

The jobs that need doing are declining as we speak and they will not come back. More and more jobs are going to be eliminated. That is an over all good because at last humanity is going to be able to enjoy true freedom.

The problem is that way too many people are intimidated by the very idea of real freedom. They will not know how to act or behave when freed. Some feel more secure being slaves than facing the perils of actually having the hours of their lives under their own control. They need task masters and think everyone should.

Some people will opt to work because they just plain like someone else giving structure to their lives. They want a boss. Others want to be a boss. There will be enough of them to do the work that is truly needed. And, they will receive rewards for making that choice.

Just as when the slaves were freed after the Civil War, some will not adapt and will act badly. They will be punished for their crimes, eliminated from society and the rest of humanity will get on with a new society with new perspectives and new values.

The transition from old to new values and lifestyle may be rough. There are always those who fight tooth and nail to resist change even when the change is clearly better and to their own benefit. That period of time is what we need to be prepared for.

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