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Old 11-05-2009, 04:59 PM
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Of course my reaction was MUSLIM! But just because the guy has a middle eastern name doesn't mean anything...not yet anyway. It'll be interesting to see how this unfolds. I feel awful for the people involved. I'm sure this is the LAST place they thought there life was at risk.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:00 PM
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I can hear the cheer from Arab countries now. God bless these poor men who lost there lives in such a cowardly attack. As of today if I were the President I would have all Muslims and anyone with an arabic named relieved from duty with pay.
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Yah. They didnt even know who did it before they spewed out it wasnt a terrorist attack. Uh Huh........ FBI....... Yah, tell us something like the truth You all remember that thing called the Truth right. You will see that these Pieces of Camel dung were dammed Muslums!
heheheh, a little irreverent maybe, but....

Of course they knew it wasn't a terror attack - they didn't help plan it or supply dummy munitions.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

On a serious note, God rest the fallen troops and protect those who made it. That goes for all of them, everywhere.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:22 PM
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Now that the shooter is of Middle East decent, watch the MSM shove their coverage to the back burner in an lame PC move. Unless there is celebrations by his Muslim brothers in Gaza , then they will splash the footage at the top of the hour!
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I'm wondering..does the FBI get involved with Military crimes? I thought the Army would have it's own unit oversee this? Just saw on fox saying the FBI is conducting an investigation.
And I agree with some other folks thoughts...his name, he was educated so I don't see it as a "depressed teen rampage" and the fact it was at the deployment center...doesn't smell right
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Old 11-05-2009, 06:42 PM
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The problem here is that we've turned our military bases into gun-free zones. And we know what the history of gun-free zones is: some maniac brings a gun and there's no one to shoot him.

I don't understand why military and civilian leaders of the military don't trust their own men enough to allow them to carry guns. If your job is to carry a gun in a war zone then you should carry at home during times of war - and probably even during peace time. There's something wrong with the leadership when even the military must be unarmed.

Why did this shooter go virtually unmolested until the civilian police showed up? all those soldiers and not one of them legally carrying a gun. What a shame.
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I agree. wanna hear something stupid. My son is stationed there and works in one of the armouries . he checks and repairs weapons, pistols to .50 cal. but can't carry?? don't get me wrong ,I'm proud that he joined and is serving but something out of wack.
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My thoughts and prayers are with the wounded,and the families of the dead. I know this is politically incorrect,but I hope the piece of crap that did this rots in hell!
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The problem here is that we've turned our military bases into gun-free zones. And we know what the history of gun-free zones is: some maniac brings a gun and there's no one to shoot him.

I don't understand why military and civilian leaders of the military don't trust their own men enough to allow them to carry guns. If your job is to carry a gun in a war zone then you should carry at home during times of war - and probably even during peace time. There's something wrong with the leadership when even the military must be unarmed.

Why did this shooter go virtually unmolested until the civilian police showed up? all those soldiers and not one of them legally carrying a gun. What a shame.
So true. Same with schools. Nobody can stop a school shooter because nobody can legally carry a gun on school premises. If only the laws actually stopped criminals...
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Just saw on the news. My texas heart is breaking. Frankly I can't believe it hasn't happened on a weekly basis since 911. Soldiers getting ready for deployment to the rag head country, are I'm sure constantly making rag head statements, etc. to each other, to bolster each others rediness to go into battle soon, psyching themselves up for what combat lay ahead of them. Any muslims that may already be in the military as well (which I can't believe they'd let them in, but i'm not in charge of the military) would become most likely constantly aggitated more hearing the thousands of statements from fellow peers about to deploy and he probably snapped, or they. Or then again, maybe it was their goal from the get go before they joined up. Seems like they would first want to get into combat situation, wait for our troops to begin firing at the enemy then shoot their whole platoon down in the back. I guess these guys didn't have that much patience. They could have done a lot more damage by waiting another week or so. Sad event, no matter what the motives either way. My news channel says they caught two suspects. Tomorrow will tell more on details. But details won't bring our boys back to life. My prayers to the family of our soldiers. I feel like this horrible incident will cause their fellow platoon members to watch each others back over there even more closely. I hope if one good thing comes from this nightmare, it might bring more of them home again in an odd way.
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Just saw on the news. My texas heart is breaking. Frankly I can't believe it hasn't happened on a weekly basis since 911. Soldiers getting ready for deployment to the rag head country, are I'm sure constantly making rag head statements, etc. to each other, to bolster each others rediness to go into battle soon, psyching themselves up for what combat lay ahead of them. Any muslims that may already be in the military as well (which I can't believe they'd let them in, but i'm not in charge of the military) would become most likely constantly aggitated more hearing the thousands of statements from fellow peers about to deploy and he probably snapped, or they. Or then again, maybe it was their goal from the get go before they joined up. Seems like they would first want to get into combat situation, wait for our troops to begin firing at the enemy then shoot their whole platoon down in the back. I guess these guys didn't have that much patience. They could have done a lot more damage by waiting another week or so. Sad event, no matter what the motives either way. My news channel says they caught two suspects. Tomorrow will tell more on details. But details won't bring our boys back to life. My prayers to the family of our soldiers. I feel like this horrible incident will cause their fellow platoon members to watch each others back over there even more closely. I hope if one good thing comes from this nightmare, it might bring more of them home again in an odd way.

If him or they were to have waited until they were deployed to do something like this, chances are we would have never heard about it, it would just be another incident of soldiers being killed by the enemy, or maybe another "accidental friendly fire" type situation. IMO


Sounds like it was a lone gunman now, it will be interesting to see how this story unfolds and if anything (psych ops) changes.

My thoughts go out to all those who lost love ones or anyone that was injured in today's shooting.
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:44 PM
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My thoughts and prayers for the service members who were killed and wounded today. This Country should really realized Muslims can't be trusted. We need to send them packing back to the middle east armpit of a world.
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I don't know how much longer we can go without "racial profiling". We are in an upside-down world for sure.
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My prayers go out for the families and soldiers killed and wounded today by this coward. Lord Jesus,hear our prayer. TP
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OOPs, looks like sleep cell in the military woke up a little early. I wonder how many more that are in the different military branches just waiting for the call sign to start things up. It is probably even worse in the FBI, CIA, ATF, and anyother alphabet org. They all rushed out to recruit as many Arabic speakers they could get their hands on regardless if they were born here or not. They most likely picked up a whole bunch of rotten apples all doing enough not to get fired and get that pat on the head of their superiors now and then. Giving away minor terrorist players that their terrorist masters allow them to sacrifice. Equal opertunity employment is going to bite us all in the @ss.
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Damn. If I were 20 again... I'd reup. TP
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:10 PM
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Wonder how they will spin this?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572305,00.html

An Army psychiatrist who reportedly feared an impending war deployment is in custody as the sole suspect in a shooting rampage at Fort Hood in Texas that left 12 dead and at least 30 wounded, an Army official said Thursday night.

The news that the suspect, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, was alive and in stable condition came as a sudden reversal of early reports that the gunman was among the dead.

"I would say his death is not imminent," Lt. Gen. Bob Cone said. Col. Ben Danner said the suspect was shot at least four times.

Two other soldiers who were taken into custody for questioning were later released, Cone said. A female first responder who shot at Hasan also survived, contrary to earlier reports that she had died.

The rampage was believed to be the deadliest at a U.S. military base in history. The exact motive wasn't clear, though Hasan, a Virginia native and a Muslim, reportedly was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and had been the target of harassment for his ethnicity.

Federal law enforcement officials told the Associated Press that Hasan had come to their attention at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats. The officials said they are still trying to confirm that he was the author.

One of the Web postings that authorities reviewed is a blog that equates homicide bombers with a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save the lives of his comrades.

"To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause," said the Internet posting. "Scholars have paralled (sic) this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers."

They say an official investigation was not opened.

Hasan was working with soldiers at Darnall Army Medical Center on Fort Hood after being transferred in July from Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he had worked for six years before recently receiving a poor review.

Cone said the shooter used two guns, including a semi-automatic weapon. He added there was no indication they were military weapons.

The shooting took place 1:30 p.m. Thursday at the post's Soldier Readiness Center, where soldiers undergo medical screening before being deployed or after returning from overseas.

"We have a terrible, tragic situation here," said Cone. "Soldiers, family members and the civilians that work here are absolutely devastated."

Cone said the injuries "vary significantly" among the victims wounded in the shooting.

The shooter's cousin, Nader Hasan, told Fox News that their family is in shock.

"We are trying to make sense of all this," Nader Hasan said. "He wasn't even someone who enjoyed going to the firing range."

He said his cousin, who was born and raised in Virginia and graduated from Virginia Tech University, turned against the wars after hearing the stories of those who came back from Afghanistan and Iraq.

Nader Hasan said his cousin, who was raised a Muslim, wanted to go into the military against his parent's wishes — but was taunted by others after the terror attacks of Sept. 11.

A former neighbor of Hasan's in Silver Spring, Md., told Fox News he lived there for two years with his brother and had the word "Allah" on the door.

She said the FBI interviewed her Thursday afternoon, adding she used to see a woman and a 3-year-old girl coming and going.

Authorities provided little information Thursday about the victims of the rampage at Fort Hood.

George Stratton's son, George Stratton III, was five feet away from the shooter at the Soldier Readiness Center and suffered a gunshot wound to his left shoulder.

"He said he was there doing medical stuff and all of a sudden someone came through the door, walked behind the desk and just started shooting," Stratton told FoxNews.com.

He said about 15 rounds went off and people started dropping to the floor.

"He peaked up over the desk and that's when he was shot in the shoulder, and he just went down again. He said he saw one of his NCOs get badly shot," Stratton told FoxNews.com after talking to his son in the hospital. "After he got shot he told me, 'Dad, I got up, held my arm and took off running.'"

Stratton said his son was expected to be deployed to Afghanistan in January after going to basic training exactly a year ago.

"It's pretty hard to believe something like this happened," Stratton told FoxNews.com. "I think he's probably had his fill of war already."

President Obama called the shooting a "horrific outburst of violence" on members of the nation's armed forces. "It is horrifying that they should come under fire at an army base on American soil," he said

Obama said his thoughts and prayers are with the wounded and families of the fallen.

A spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations said they don't know anything about Hasan, and condemned the shooting at Fort Hood.

The group issued a statement calling the shooting as a "cowardly attack." They say no political or religious ideology could ever justify or excuse such violence.

The base and area schools were on lockdown after the mass shooting, and all those on the Army post were asked to gather for a head count, thought the lockdown was lifted Thursday night.

Covering 339 square miles, Fort Hood is the largest active duty armored post in the United States. Home to about 52,000 troops as of earlier this year, the sprawling base is located halfway between Austin and Waco.

FoxNews.com's Michelle Maskaly and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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