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#1 ·
This family of 4 lives on a 5th of an acre and grows all their own food and raises livestock. 6,000 lbs of produce on a 5th of an acre. Amazing!



 
#2 ·
It just amazes me how alien this reporter portrays this family. Less then 100 years ago most Americans lived this way. This is exactly how the corporations DONT want us to live.

If we as a country got back to the basics like this family has there would be no more Wal-Marts. This family is a perfect example of how we should all strive to live. Screw the brand name clothes, hi tech gadgets, and societys obsession with bling!
 
#24 ·
If we as a country got back to the basics like this family has there would be no more Wal-Marts.
We HAD a Wal-Mart at every doorstep 50-100 yrs ago, or at least the Wal-Mart of that time and place. It was the Sears catalog! (But surely most of those goods were American made.)

The setup these guys have is phenomenal considering they're smack in the middle of metro LA. Of course, all that additional sunlight and longer growing season certainly doesn't hurt their operation. Something tells me I'd have a little trouble duplicating the effort in Washington...
 
#4 ·
If laid out properly a small amount of land can produce amazing results. If you had a one acre farm for example you could put a cow, goat, a few pigs, and a dozen or so hens. The goat would provide milk when the cow was dry. The cow would be a great manure producer and could be your fertilizer for the rest of your acre. You could use the other half to raise fruit and vegetables if you kept your land well drained. With a good grass stand on half your acre it would feed your cow through the summer months. It can be done on different scales, but can be done! Interesting thread.
 
#7 ·
impressive - way over my level.

we use about a 5th of an acre right now for our basic garden - over the years we've added things like a 30 foot double row arbor for the green beans to climb..it's almost 8 ft high so I can walk under it and pick without crouching.
We also have rows for other climbers that are single row arbors..some raised beds...potatoe tire piles, etc...we grow more each year in the basics of peas, beans(various) squash, tomatos, etc...than we can handle ourselves...canning, freezing, eating...giving some away.

I want goats, but the cost to fence the areas I want them in is my prohibition right now...we have 12 acres..and I'd like to place the goats in some of the wooded space and have them clear the underbrush..but goats don't believe in fences and with the yotes and even a couple bobcats.. I'd just hate to loose my goats....it's on my list though.

if I see many more signs of food crisis.. I will make the move to goats and domestic meat rabbits.
 
#9 ·
Thank you for posting the videos.

Where's the tractor? ;)

Seriously, where many go wrong is thinking they need large acreage and other expense assets.

People also forget that they need a market. They need marketing skills, and marketable products.

We rented to a family in Texas who did what this family is doing, except their market was far from where they lived and grew their food. They were still able to make a profit. Partners in their operation were single moms, who grew some of the crops in their own yards and helped with harvest and delivery.

Getting "pretty" organic produce is important. It takes experience. You have to know your varieties. What do the specialty restaurants want? What is can be grown without ugly pest and disease damage in your area?

Do you have the discipline necessary to do what needs to be done in very short time windows? This is more discipline demanding then owning a milk cow that has to be milked twice a day.

Even if you never plan on selling your produce and you have 200 acres like me, this intensive method of gardening is very productive for family gardening.
 
#10 ·
My dad did something similar when I was a kid in the ghetto area of Seattle. The whole backyard was a garden, planted cherry and apple trees on the side and had honey bees. The next door neighbor was influenced by him and got a goat and made his own garden. All this with crack houses, hookers and drive by shootings on the same block. He now lives in the middle of nowhere with all the property he needs to do his thing.

I've wanted to do this, but my HOA won't allow me to raise rabbits and chickens. I'm allowed to have a garden in the backyard if it's ok with the neighbors. I'm working on hydroponics to do what I need in my backyard to have more space to grow things and I'm looking into honeybees (didn't see anything about that in the HOA).
 
#11 ·
so here is my idea for a 65.ft long-x-50.ft wide sized lot to make one person completely self sustainable as it need ..

here is part of my crazy idea about the whole small lot thing ..

move the house underground and use the above area of the house as a personal space for the solar and wind power system to power the house for all electrical needs and entance system to get and out of the place and well water system also is located in this area..this area is 20.ft long-x-50.ft wide

plus the fact once the land has settle above the house entance area and it ready to be landscaped as it need it to make your area of the land as a personal space

a small entance drive way that sized as -x-45.ft long-x-12.ft wide goes all the way back to the end of the land with a small 5-high cable wire fence around the personal area of the person who owns the land to keep the land from the tillable land as it going to be part of the larger area garden set up ..

as part of the driveway is located the septic leaching field set up of 2.ft wide-x-to a depth of 24.inchs in a sloping manner from the septic tank unit ..the standard driveway width is 10,ft wide ..

located at the end of the driveway is a small metal or wood roof carport to cover the car from the sun or bad weather as it need ..

plus also have in one of the areas two small 10.ft long-x-4.ft wide-x-3.ft tall personal raised bed garden set up to produce your own personal fuits and vegs as need for your personal use .. ..

the personal space area has a run your fence completely around the land with a small metal cattle gate guard unit to allow you to drive over but keeps out large animals also .. the 5-high metal cable stand wire fence with metal post is design to make your land as yours from the others in the area..


now that leaves a area the sized of 40.ft long -x-38.ft wide to do something in ..you could lease it out to someone for part of the garden or have someone run chickens on it ..

the idea is crazy but i wonder if it would work ..
 
#15 ·
This amazes me too.

Growing up, I had a neighbor that his whole backyard was a garden.
Every bit of his small yard was used.
He would share with all the neighbors what he couldn't eat.

He was a nice guy but don't let our kick ball go into his yard or he kept it.
We all thought he was mean but only later when we weren't kids anymore did we appreciate his efforts.
 
#18 ·
Those folks must be selling some gourmet items and purchasing some staples with the proceeds to state that 4 adults are self-supporting on 1/5th. of an acre.

It doesn't add up.

Their lot is obviously bigger than 1/5th. of an acre. They are just counting the area of the planting beds to come up with the 1/5th. of an acre logic, likely don't count the footpaths either.

I really wonder about outside inputs to their system.
 
#21 ·
here is the thing with me ..how much space is wasted with the family houseing foot print on the land that you are trying make use for a garden in small lot farming system ..so i was wondering if you made the house up about 10.ft on a platform set up with a wide open deck around the small house for you and family to get more space out of the lot plus you have a space now for car parking along with a small garden stowage shed in the area.. .

this way the drivway is saight into the area approch set up .land is basically beening used to max amount of space there is beening used for gardens
 
#22 ·
I got into a Farmer's Market in a college town where they can get $4 for a dozen eggs. Plus about half of the vendors drive 3-hours South to our state's biggest city, where they can also get $4 for a dozen eggs [and of course everything else is likewise high priced]

Locally in the grocery stores you can buy eggs for 99cents/dozen.

With the current recession we are seeing a lot of rural folks building chicken coops. But here is the rub. If you buy commercial layer feed your eggs will cost you about $2/dozen to produce. There is a efficiency-of-size to contend with also. by adding timed lights, and winter heat you can push the layers to produce more. But you shorten the life-span of the hens [so you need to focus more on incubating and brooding] and how much heating oil do you truly want to be buying? To produce eggs year-round will cost you $3/dozen [or more].

Small scale homesteading can not compete with corporate egg-farming. A family homestead can not produce market eggs for under a buck/dozen.

My neighbors who have been starting chickens this year? They will learn. Though I am not telling them how I tweaked it to break even. When they go broke, I will still be here selling my eggs :)

If you can find a good market, go for it.

$13/salad is an extremely high priced salad. But if you looked at that salad it was mostly flower petals. Only a very foo-foo restaurant could serve that.
 
#23 ·
Info was taken from there site. http://urbanhomestead.org

Urban Homestead at a Glance
Location: Northwest Pasadena, one mile from downtown Pasadena

Property Size: 66’ x 132’ = 8,712 sq.ft. (1/5 acre)

House: Simple, wood frame craftsman bungalow. Circa 1917.

House Size: 1,500 sq. ft.

Garden Size: ~ 1/10 acre (3,900 sq.ft. / ~ 66' x 66')

Garden Diversity: Over 350 different vegetables, herbs, fruits & berries

Productivity: Up to 6,000 lbs harvest annually on 1/10 acre
 
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